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    discuss ....
    Plandy Balderschlong is a douchebag who was once escorted out of a petting zoo for engaging in assplay with pygmy goats.

    discuss ......

  • #2
    Do we know if the racist choker is, or was a client?
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    • #3
      What did I miss
      “President Obama is a personal friend of mine,” said Rickles. “He was over to the house yesterday, but the mop broke.”


      It's early!!!


      Be the kind of person that when your feet hit the floor each morning liberals say "Oh crap he's up"

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      • #4
        I’m guessing this is because we’re in talks on a trade for the Brewers’ Josh Hader.
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        • #5
          Or because we're now trying to package prospects to get rid of bad signings like Familia...Or because Wheeler supposedly has multiple 100+ mil offers on the table and is definitely gone...or because...Mets

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          • #6
            Beat me to it... But here was direct quote to follow up hats statement



            As the Mets try to clear money for other moves, here’s a concept they are considering, according to major-league sources: Trading infielder Jed Lowrie and/or reliever Jeurys Familia by packaging him with a low-cost, zero-to-three year player such as first baseman Dom Smith.
            Lowrie and Familia were two of Brodie Van Wagenen’s free-agent signings last offseason, his first as Mets general manager. Lowrie, who appeared in only nine games due to injuries, is owed $9 million next season. Familia, who had a 5.70 ERA in 60 innings, is owed $22 million over the next two.
            ~Rosenthal

            ****ING cheap bastard wilpons... Gotta trade good minor leaguers along with crap to get rid if it... Cuz God forbid they can spend any other way... He f*ing signed those two bums.. They should make brodie reimburse team with his own money!! This is yet another example of wilpons accounting 101..shuffle deck... Rob Peter to pay Paul philosophy... Why they will never reach the top..
            ACCEPTED TRUTH: That I will be ROYALLY F**CKED OVER by EVERY TEAM I ROOT FOR (METS, JETS & KNICKS) !!!

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            • #7
              If all it takes is Dom Smith to move either of those contracts then sign me up.

              I know that the Mets have been cheap in the past. But, based on sportrac payroll the Mets currently have the 6th highest payroll for the 2020 season.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by dak11 View Post
                If all it takes is Dom Smith to move either of those contracts then sign me up.

                I know that the Mets have been cheap in the past. But, based on sportrac payroll the Mets currently have the 6th highest payroll for the 2020 season.
                You'd really trade Smith just to get rid of 10 mil on Lowrie? It's a 1 year deal. They gave that kind of money to Frazier AND Lagares last year. Familia fair enough - but its just all such a Mets move to over pay these guys than have to give up prospects just to get rid of them a year later.

                Payroll is a little misleading.... Wright and Cess account for over 40 mil of their payroll, but the Mets are getting the majority of that $$ back in their pockets. They are also getting cash back for Cano (think it was 5 mil-ish per). Take 45ish mil off the payroll # and they are middle of the pack. If they exceed the tax the insurance money more than pays for penalty.


                Plus on top of all that its early in the offseason - last year the Mets finished 10th (counting Wrights and Cess numbers) and about 20th if you cross them out. A number of teams that were in front of them now have fallen back because of FAs...ones likely to spend $$ - Angels, Nationals, Cards, etc. It was also the first time in almost a decade that they were in the top 10.....

                It's NY. They are supposed to be a contending team. Lets see if they are top 5-6 come opening day. No reason they shouldn't be when their 2021 committed salary is very much in the middle of the pack giving them around 100 mil to spend just to get back to where they are. They shouldn't live in fear of the exceeding the tax this year as it would be a 1st year hit and likely only a 1 season burn yet it seems very much like there is a pretty hard ceiling in the 160-170 range...which ultimately again is going to put them in the 8-12 range. Hardly where a supposed contender in NY *could* be.

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                • #9
                  AMEN on all points.. Numbers are fudged... But they act/ treated like they are upper echelon.. Even if they hit the tax.. I forget what the ecxact penalty was.. But since it would be year1.. Penalty would be minimal(for a supposed big market).. And they could get back under after next year and it resets.. So really no excuse...just to add.. As far as 2020 offseason... Family class is a lot weaker(a lot of rp) but not too much else. So saving the $$ for a rainy day not exactly the right plan either..

                  lastly.. The thing to fear is the negotiating trade skills of brodie.. Which takes us back to the dreaded Cano deal.. Mariners should have been team to throw in more for taking on salary.. (Diaz) .. But instead.. Mets thru in the blue chip.. So now brodie wants to further depelete depth for a mistake(s) he made when lowerie should NEVER been signed as was for a position not needed.. Trading Dom to get rid of crap is a poor allocation of limited resources (cheap talent) no matter how you slice it... Use Dom to fill a need in a trade.. You wanna say they are doing this to clear salary fora big buy.. Fine... But we know it's for more nickel and dine purchases..
                  ACCEPTED TRUTH: That I will be ROYALLY F**CKED OVER by EVERY TEAM I ROOT FOR (METS, JETS & KNICKS) !!!

                  Citifield & Mets...the place where Sluggers Careers go to DIE"

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTLzr2Al_Os

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                  • #10
                    Current word is that the Phillies are the top bidder for him. Will be so typically Mets for he and d'Arnaud to crush them next season.
                    "There have been artists who have failed to capture dichotomy as beautifully as the Mets have in playing Wilmer Flores at shortstop and Juan Lagares in center field."

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Led, the Revenge View Post
                      Current word is that the Phillies are the top bidder for him. Will be so typically Mets for he and d'Arnaud to crush them next season.
                      With even reasonable health TDA could hit 25 HRs in that bandbox.

                      they’ll go full court press when Alonso goes to FA. He would challenge Maris.
                      Plandy Balderschlong is a douchebag who was once escorted out of a petting zoo for engaging in assplay with pygmy goats.

                      discuss ......

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by MrHat View Post

                        You'd really trade Smith just to get rid of 10 mil on Lowrie? It's a 1 year deal. They gave that kind of money to Frazier AND Lagares last year. Familia fair enough - but its just all such a Mets move to over pay these guys than have to give up prospects just to get rid of them a year later.

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                        If it means that $10 mil can be used some place else to fill a need I'd seriously consider it. Of course, I'm sure there's an argument about Dom Smith's potential value on the trade market but I'm not a believer in him even after the decent part-time numbers last season. He can really only play 1B and I'm not a fan of 6 foot 1B's, especially one's with weight issues.

                        Basically, Lowrie is a luxury that this team doesn't need to pay for given McNeil, JD Davis, Nimmo, Conforto, and the potential Cespedes return all need consistent playing time outside of another deal being made.

                        86 - You mention trading Dom to fill a need. What kind of return would you expect for Smith?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by dak11 View Post

                          If it means that $10 mil can be used some place else to fill a need I'd seriously consider it. Of course, I'm sure there's an argument about Dom Smith's potential value on the trade market but I'm not a believer in him even after the decent part-time numbers last season. He can really only play 1B and I'm not a fan of 6 foot 1B's, especially one's with weight issues.

                          Basically, Lowrie is a luxury that this team doesn't need to pay for given McNeil, JD Davis, Nimmo, Conforto, and the potential Cespedes return all need consistent playing time outside of another deal being made.

                          86 - You mention trading Dom to fill a need. What kind of return would you expect for Smith?
                          You know the first line in that is false so no need to go further. They'd move these guys and then go 50 cent on the dollar on the 10 mil.

                          I'm not going to argue Smith's trade value...I think its honestly minimal - low end middle relief (potential arb salary dump type)/bench depth at best -, but I'd argue more for his potential role on the team. His defensive metrics in the OF were actually better than JD Davis...So to me, I'd look to move Davis over Smith. The raw numbers on JD likely prove more marketable than the "potential" on Smith. I think those two are potentially interchangeable parts 1 lefty/1 righty. I guess you can argue the team is somewhat lefty heavy, but I'm not really overly concerned on that when guys like Nimmo and McNeil are pretty neutral lefties and your best bat is a righty.

                          I think Lowrie does serve a role on this team - 2 of the last 3 years Cano has been HORRIBLE against lefties and that's been Lowrie's better splits. I'd have a general platoon there. Then give him some games at 3B with McNeil in LF to rest an OFer as its not like Nimmo (or if they pursue Marte) has been an ironman. Could you get someone cheaper to do that? Sure...but its a 1 year deal in a big market and you already have him...shouldn't be a game changer to me. Plus is that "other" guy you're getting potentially able to step into a starting role for 100+ games if someone goes down? Doubt it. 2019 aside Lowrie has the track record.

                          Point being they've had 8 years of 12-20 rankings in salary to "save" for this moment...10 mil for 1 season shouldn't be a game changer for this organization. I understand it much more on a multi-year deal like Familia and also because the bullpen was such a black eye they need a general shakeup there anyways.

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                          • #14
                            My view was to keep dom and JD.. Last year they all served a role and provided a nice effective bench where offense didn't miss a beat when the relied upon guys McNeil/conforro/Nimmo needed a break or were banged up.. I would only ask for a cf/of defensive caddie that Lagares was for late game replacement..
                            idk what Dom would fetch but with small market teams non tendering players around the league.. Would think a team would want to take a chance on him for a reliever or back end sp. Perhaps somebody like Tampa who always has live arms on team and brings in guys off the scrap heap every year.

                            With giminez/guillorme..lowerie is not needed.. Never was... But he only has one year left..

                            Bottom line this is all bs... The payroll falls off a cliff next offseason.. Them only being able to allocate 10m total for fa according to Sherman is pathetic..
                            ACCEPTED TRUTH: That I will be ROYALLY F**CKED OVER by EVERY TEAM I ROOT FOR (METS, JETS & KNICKS) !!!

                            Citifield & Mets...the place where Sluggers Careers go to DIE"

                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTLzr2Al_Os

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by MrHat View Post

                              You know the first line in that is false so no need to go further. They'd move these guys and then go 50 cent on the dollar on the 10 mil.

                              I'm not going to argue Smith's trade value...I think its honestly minimal - low end middle relief (potential arb salary dump type)/bench depth at best -, but I'd argue more for his potential role on the team. His defensive metrics in the OF were actually better than JD Davis...So to me, I'd look to move Davis over Smith. The raw numbers on JD likely prove more marketable than the "potential" on Smith. I think those two are potentially interchangeable parts 1 lefty/1 righty. I guess you can argue the team is somewhat lefty heavy, but I'm not really overly concerned on that when guys like Nimmo and McNeil are pretty neutral lefties and your best bat is a righty.

                              I think Lowrie does serve a role on this team - 2 of the last 3 years Cano has been HORRIBLE against lefties and that's been Lowrie's better splits. I'd have a general platoon there. Then give him some games at 3B with McNeil in LF to rest an OFer as its not like Nimmo (or if they pursue Marte) has been an ironman. Could you get someone cheaper to do that? Sure...but its a 1 year deal in a big market and you already have him...shouldn't be a game changer to me. Plus is that "other" guy you're getting potentially able to step into a starting role for 100+ games if someone goes down? Doubt it. 2019 aside Lowrie has the track record.

                              Point being they've had 8 years of 12-20 rankings in salary to "save" for this moment...10 mil for 1 season shouldn't be a game changer for this organization. I understand it much more on a multi-year deal like Familia and also because the bullpen was such a black eye they need a general shakeup there anyways.
                              I wouldn't argue on the value of moving Davis over Smith. Davis clearly has more value given his production and position he plays. Rumors are going around that Davis could be one of the pieces in any Hader trade. There's also talk about the brewers making Hiura available. I'm not stating the Mets should deal him, only speculating that McNeil could also be in those discussions based on Hirua being available.

                              I'd also agree that Lowrie could have a role on the team. My view is that his available salary if moved could be more beneficial than the role he'd provide. I have a hard time believing that they'll go into the season with the idea of platooning Cano. They'll point to his 2018 numbers and think he can replicate them even if he can't. Let's also not make Lowrie into some lefty killer. Even in his career year of 2018 he only hit them to a .254/.327/.713 tune.

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