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  • Sterling_Archer
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    Originally posted by OrangeNblueNmyVeins View Post

    My first thought was Bobby V then my second thought was Jerry Maguire.
    Or Jerry Seinfeld

    or the stupid half of Ben and Jerry’s.

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  • METSSC
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    Looks like the Phillies just hired Girardi

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  • MrHat
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    Originally posted by OrangeNblueNmyVeins View Post
    Sorry, but they said some of the same **** about Callaway when he was "the hot" coaching candidate. He also served under Terry Francona he must have learned from him! He was a part of a winning coaching staff! How'd that thinking work out?
    Callaway was never a manager tho...he had ONLY ever been a pitching coach...in the minors AND in the majors. So even "learning" from Francona he had no point of reference for him. No experience as a player or coach in NY (or any major market honestly). Plus he only had only been doing that for 6 years...3 in the majors.

    With Bogar he was at least a minor league manager for 5 years and won 3 manager of the year titles. Then spent 7 years as bench coach / assistant coach for some of the top organizations/managers in the game. Then spent 3 years working the front office. Now back to being a coach. I mean if you want someone who did it the way its supposed to be done - worked their way up and around multiple organizations in multiple roles be highly respected and accomplished at all of them.

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  • OrangeNblueNmyVeins
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    Originally posted by METSSC View Post

    Joe Torre?

    Tommy Lasorda?

    Willie Mays?


    Felix Millan?

    how about Mike Piazza. Didn’t he manage the Italian national team? I don’t think they ever won a game but that would be a bombshell
    My first thought was Bobby V then my second thought was Jerry Maguire.

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  • METSSC
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    Originally posted by OrangeNblueNmyVeins View Post




    Mets gotta Mets
    Joe Torre?

    Tommy Lasorda?

    Willie Mays?


    Felix Millan?

    how about Mike Piazza. Didn’t he manage the Italian national team? I don’t think they ever won a game but that would be a bombshell

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  • dak11
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    Ultimately Brody will decide that no one could do the job like he could so he'll name himself GM/Manager. He'll figure he already has a relationship with half the team from when he was their agent so he'll be able to connect with them and since he was telling Callaway what to do anyway he figures he'll just cut out the middleman.

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  • OrangeNblueNmyVeins
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    Sorry, but they said some of the same **** about Callaway when he was "the hot" coaching candidate. He also served under Terry Francona he must have learned from him! He was a part of a winning coaching staff! How'd that thinking work out?

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  • MrHat
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    Bogar imo is a legit coach but it just drives me nuts when once again as met fans we're preparing for the "best" of the alternatives when the best guy for the job is sitting out there AND strongly rumored to be going to our rivals.

    I mean we're used to it on players but now even mangers?

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  • 86mets
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    Appreciate the scouting report on Bogar in terms of managerial candidacy... I too had no idea he had that much experience in the minors as well as who he served under in the majors... So he definitely moves up to number 2 on my list... But I am bracing for it to being Beltran or Perez.. This screams to me just like the GM hire when they could have had a competent, smart GM in bloom.. And went for the name splash with Brody...

    Bloom/girardi Bloom/Bogar combo would look pretty darned good right now..

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  • RkFast
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    I have to be honest, if the Mets dont get Girardi or even another manager with major league managerial experience AND Girardi winds up in Philly, my TV might start going from SNY to YES! a lot more next year.

    I can live with "benevolent ineptitude", if you will. Im a Buffalo Bills fan and until recently, that was our middle name. In Ralph Wilson we had an owner who was a really nice, generous man who cared about the city of Buffalo, the team and wanted the best for the fans. But despite that, he couldnt figure out how to hire the right people or make the right moves to save his life.

    But with the Mets its different.

    In light of how much talent this team has...and how close they REALLY are to dominating the League next year...passing on a managerial candidate with bona fide skills and experience the team needs would be such a hard slap to the face from ownership, and such a clear sign that they have absolutely zero interest in competing on any level, that I would have to consider...CONSIDER...taking my allegiances elsewhere. It would show not just incompetence, but gross negligence, and there is only so many kicks to the nuts I can take from the Wilpons.

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  • OrangeNblueNmyVeins
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    Andy Martino


    @martinonyc






    One person connected to team has said a “bombshell candidate” is in the mix if a clear favorite does not emerge from the current group. Have fun with that one. No way David Wright would ever do this so don’t go down that road btw



    Mets gotta Mets

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  • MrHat
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    Originally posted by defender View Post
    I didn't realize Bogar had so much managerial experience in the minors. Named manager of the year in three different minor leagues. I feel a lot better about him if it's not Girardi.
    Bogar was a top candidate for a number of seasons....he kind of chose to go to the Front office with his buddy in LA/Seattle for a while....that's the only thing that makes me a tad hesitant on him. Did he just suck at interviews back in 2016ish or didn't have the drive to do it? Outside of that he is a candidate that actually checks every box - Experience in NY. History of managerial success through multiple organizations. Plenty of time spent coaching at the ML level on multiple successful teams - Rays, Red Sox, Rangers, now Nats.

    But like I said its Girardi....a big gap...then Bogar.....then 100x gap for any of the other candidates.

    Did anyone else read this report on Beltran too - supposedly one of the reasons they are so high on him is they believe he'll be able to connect to Cess.... Give me a ****ing break...like this guy should be anything more than an afterthought for the 2020 mets. If he happens to come back and wants to ball out in his contract year, great throw him in LF until his leg falls off in May and then be done with it....if not really just stay the **** on your stupid ranch and collect insurance money. He should in no way be a "focus" for anyone.

    I'll kinda be stunned if it isn't Beltran. When the Phils announce today or tomorrow its Girardi - Beltran becomes the perfect fit for the "headlines" of the Mets which is what they are about more than winning. Ex-Met. Groomed by the Yankees. He'll be like our Boone...only he was a superstar so obviously must be a great manager. Because really think about all the other star players who went on to become great managers like uhhhh and hrmmmm. It'll be a back page splash and a yes man for the Wilpon's / Brodie to dictate orders to because he's largely just a prop...only this time a popular prop (unlike Mickey). Tim Bogar doesn't have flash and you know the headline will be something like "Bogus!" so that's what worries the Wilpons...not the fact that the guy has won pretty much every where he's been.

    The ONLY way I see Girardi coming here is if Philly hires someone else (as I don't believe he's tops on the list for the Cubs either).... then that puts the Mets backed into a corner where the media pressure is going to build even more....and the only way I think Philly doesn't hire him is if he flat out doesn't want that job (I think he's luke warm on it - push comes to shove I think Joe would MUCH rather manage the Cubs or Mets).

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  • OrangeNblueNmyVeins
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    Originally posted by defender View Post
    I didn't realize Bogar had so much managerial experience in the minors. Named manager of the year in three different minor leagues. I feel a lot better about him if it's not Girardi.
    Which means Beltran's getting the gig.

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  • defender
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    I didn't realize Bogar had so much managerial experience in the minors. Named manager of the year in three different minor leagues. I feel a lot better about him if it's not Girardi.

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  • MrHat
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    Even more of a reason to hire Girardi.... Keep him away from division rival

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