metman

How much 'fight' and 'heart' did Utley and Burrell have today? Or how about when Ryan Howard k's 288 times per year?

Mets don't need more fight or heart. They need more relievers with guts and another hitter who isn't trying to hit a long ball and can hit opposite field doubles. What a bunch of silly **** that is.

Hit pitch and win. Big ****ing deal. The Phillies are as mediocre as any 'playoff' team can be and it's due to ineptitude that they stay afloat, just as the Mets have the last 2 years.

You want heart and fight? Go draft a Pujols or Halladay.

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Sports Doctor

Can someone in the bullpen get a ****ing out? How are you going to sit there and rag on the teams heart when the bullpen ****ing blows?

The_Kings_of_Quit

The Mets bullpen is horrible, and the Phillies' is very, very good. Case closed. And with Maine now out, the starting rotations are a lot closer.

The Mets will really have to pull some character, or heart, or guts, or whatever out of their trousers to actually pull off this division win. Because they're not going to get it done with that bullpen alone.

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Sports Doctor

Its on Omar. He did jackshit to change that walking pile of **** we call a bullpen which caused the collapse last year and probably has cost over 15 games this year.

0Colon

Anyone see that question about who failed more, maine or the bullpen.
12% to 88%.

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KingOlerud

Because the offense shut down again when everyone that has ever lived or died knew they needed more runs? Because Poster Boy didn't think it was necessary to run to avoid a double play? This is the same gutless team as last year, with a smarter manager.

No.1

9 innings without a run....you would think the Phillies pen had Webb, Peavy, and Cliff Lee.

swataz

This is the MO this team goes by, we all know it - Score early, shut down, and let the pen implode.

Barring a miraculous turn of events, that trend continues and the Mets fail to make the playoffs. Plain and simple.

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Sports Doctor

You need to win when you hve a 7-0 lead, case closed

The_Kings_of_Quit

The scariest thing about it all is that everyone in the park, including the two teams, knew the Mets were going to blow that lead, especially if they didn't score after the 4th. Which, of course, they didn't.

They lead the majors in first inning runs, and lead the majors in least runs after the 5th inning. F*cking ridiculous.

It's like they're TRYING to create perfect metaphors for last season's collapse. Just to taunt the fans further.

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KingOlerud

Is it illegal now to have a 10-0 lead or a 13-5 lead?

Mr. Met

Thank you KO. I am one of those who feel this team has no heart or fight. I never said the bullpen wasnt a massive problem, we ALL know it is. But, its one of many problems. Most every time you watch this team, they have the same MO... score runs early, lay down and die, and watch the game implode. To me, thats not a team that has fight. Sure, a lot of Phillies didnt get the job done last night, but at the end of the day, they kept fighting, while the Mets were completely dead after the 4th inning. What matters is winning games, and the Mets didnt get it done, nor did it look like they gave a crap either. That's what troubles me the most.

If the Mets do not make the playoffs, Omar should be gone within 24 hours of the end of the season, and the Mets should do a big overhaul, though I doubt the Wilpons will have the balls to do it. I'd rather watch a bunch of guys that try hard, and care about winning, even if they lose.... than keep getting my heart ripped out, night after night, season after season.

Green Must Go

Is Omar up in his luxury box thinking everything is fine and he doesn't need to fix the pen? Can he be that comatose?

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Mr. Met

1. Omar seems to be comatose, and in complete denial.

2. It's probably too late to do much about the pen. This needed to be taken care of a long time ago. Barring a miracle, we are stuck with the horses we have, and they are all near death.

KingOlerud

Wait, everyone. Omar's "negotiating" as we speak: