KingOlerud

Every informed doctor on the planet knows it wasn't that close.

Paulie Cee

Yeah they made the right choice. They went from the greatest empire in the world to a bunch of beachcombers clinging to some scraps of land in the North Atlantic.

The Legend Of the Greatness of Churchill is one of the biggest frauds in history.

Busyman

This thread is going to make all the BOT's heads explode.

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FrankStylV7

If more of their heads would explode it would make the world a better place.

What the ****'s a "BOT"?

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You know what would be awe-inspiring?

if Lieberman was on a shirt with Jesus on the cross reading "my people are tough on crime" -- kingdiggler August 25, 2008

Paulie Cee

Baseball-Only-Thread(?)

Busyman

Baseball-Only-Talkers.

I thought you were the one to come up with that one.

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Paulie Cee

I was. I'm slipping.

FrankStylV7

Yeah, explode their heads. That'd be good.

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You know what would be awe-inspiring?

if Lieberman was on a shirt with Jesus on the cross reading "my people are tough on crime" -- kingdiggler August 25, 2008

Fonzy13

Who in their right mind would come here only to talk about baseball?

Prohibition, BBBBBAAAAAAYYYYBBBBBEEEEE. That's where it's at.

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KingOlerud

Yeah, you came up with it. As me.

kingdiggler

What about no pepper games? When are they going to be made legal again??? Then all the players wouldn't be sneaking around playing games of pepper in the dark caverns of the stadiums.

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NeilAllen

Didn't they? It was either "settle" with Hitler (ie surrender) or become Junior Partner to America. I don't think they really had much of a choice.

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Paulie Cee

Hitler never really desired a war with Great Britain (or France) but mostly just wanted the wrongs of Versailles corrected. Britain which was, for the most part, amenable to these demands, as they involved the reclamation of lands with (vast) majority German populations (the Sudetenland, Danzig, etc) which wanted to remain with Germany anyway. Britain forced Germany's hand by giving Poland a "war guarantee" it could not back up, when talks between the Germans and the Poles on the subject of the return of Danzig to German authority were dismissed out of hand by the Polish government.

By doing so Germany was forced to treat with the Soviets, which through the twists and turns of fate eventually led to over four decades of the Cold War.

Churchill's bungling led his nation directly into being the "Junior Partner to America" which it remains to this day. The British government's ham-handed diplomacy in the lead-up to war alienated Italy and Japan, both allies during the first war, into to become prime members of the Axis.

Had the Brits left Poland out to dry, Hitler's gaze would have remained eastward, where a Stalin/Hitler confrontation was inevitable, but would have spared the destruction of Western Europe in the process.

Hitler was evil and would eventually have to be destroyed but the Nazi movement was much more about the man (Hitler) than the message (National Socialism). Communism was a much worse threat to Western civilization and outlived that monster Stalin by more than three decades. This goes squarely on the resumé of Mr. Churchill.

NYUNITE

most historical musings ive read usually have germany being destroyed by the Russians even without Western help, or a Facist dominated Eastern Europe replacing the USSR in a "Cold War" with the USA and Great Britain...not sure which is better...but considering both communism and facism are gone now and I never really had to live through either one, I cant really complain about how things turned out

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blog?

CharlieH

Gone? Really?

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