Deepleft34

We have several threads going on either the merits of signing Bonds, Bonds joining the cast of a 1970's/80's TV show, and a thread about viable outfield options. Lets put all the cards on the table:


What do you consider a viable option for the OF and at what cost do you go for it? I see names like Jay Payton for crying out loud....is he any better than what we have and haven't we gone down that incredibly frustrating road already? Guys like Ibanez and Holiday are intriguing, but we have already depleated our farm system of any talent that could be used in a trade other then F. Martinez. To acquire a big bat like Holiday we would most certainly have to include Pelfrey and Heilman in any deal...and they are finally pitching with consistency, so I don't want to lose them nor do I think we can afford to lose them. Any trade that would cost less than those chips would only net a half year rental, which is exactly what Ibanez (at age 37) would be.

So we are faced with the option of losing valuable, young arms in Pelfrey and/or Heilman + our only minor league talent to acquire an OF that may only be a rental? The most interesting part of this quandary is that during the off-season, better OF options will be available in Adam Dunn and Pat Burrell.

So the question is what direction do you move in. Well here are the options as I see them:

Try to package a deal with Colorado - Holiday for Pelfrey F. Martinez and Heilman. See if they bite, but I am sure a better offer is out there.

Try to package a deal with Seatle for Ibanez, but I would imagine that it would take at least F. Martinez, possibly more, for the 37 year old half season rental.

Hope Alou comes back and doesn't get hurt again. Unlikely

Hope Church is OK. Unlikely

Continue to rotate in Tatis, Anderson, and random AAA call up hoping to catch lightning in a bottle.

Or....

Sign the most prolific Home Run Hitter in baseball history for nothing.

OK, that is a little over the top...how about this:
sign a still serviceable LF who can bat clean up, hit 20 HR's in half a season and have an OBP close to or exceeding .500...who BTW will also make the Mets line up more flexible by displacing Beltran from the #4 slot, and make the hitters around see better pitches. And the kicker is not only does this guy bat LH, so if Alou does come back he can stay healthy by doing a little platooning, but this guy is willing to play for the league minimum at a half season (which, if Bonds is signed today and takes 2 weeks to get into playing mode would cost an estimated $170,000 dollars) AND it does not cost you one prospect.

I just makes too much sense to me to sign Bonds.

The parachute here is that if it doesn't work out...release him. What do you care? ML minimum.

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FrankStylV7

Hey deepleft -

MY opinion? -- read your signature line.

Makes waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much sense.

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Chuck

How about Jose Guillen from KC?

We need right handed hitter more than another leftie. Guillen may be nuts but he probably could be had for nothing after fighting with coach last week.

Deepleft34

and if you do sign Bonds and you keep him on the roster until the end of the year, the Mets still have all their talent, do not have dollars on the Payroll, have Delgado, Alou, El Duque, Pedro all coming off the books with the flexibility and financial freedom to make a serious run at Dunn, Texeria, Sheets, Sabathia, and anyone else...all at once.

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the downside is the Bonds media circus and some serious HATRED for Bonds. More than 1/2 of the fan base depises this team right now, the Mets are used to a media circus and bad pub anyway. I just see more PROS than CONS.

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He is also a negative influence in the clubhouse, a cancer if you will, but he would cost you SOMETHING...and I am sure some team would be in a bidding war if he is available. Why not get Bonds for NOTHING.

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kingdiggler

There are more pros than cons, but I really believe omar will stand pat. He may do a deal where we get a jay payton type, only because it's slightly better than what we have right now.

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To me it's a no brainer and carries no risk. It Omar had to trade a prospect or tie him up for years with cash I could see a reason not to sign him but we'll be getting a guy that gets on base at a 50% clip for free. What is there to discuss? SIGN HIM NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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kingdiggler

I agree, this move makes the most sense. Sign him Omar!!!

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Chuck

And Bonds is a club house guy? No one will sign Bonds and his circus. At least Guillen went most of the season without being a problem. His reputation may drive his cost way down and he is right handed hitter. Remember Bonds pretty much was awful 2nd half of last year and hasnt played at all this year. Also Bonds has bad knees and will end up next to Church and Alou on DL.

Deepleft34

That may very well ALL happen, my point is A) if it doesn't, you have yourself a bonafide #4 hitter, B) if it does, you release him, and C) it doesn't cost you a thing, whereas Gullen most certainly costs you Aaron Heilman, at least.

neither of them are clubhouse guys...so that cancels out.

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kingdiggler

I think the club house guy thing is overrated. He doesn't talk to the media and is surley. It doesn't mean he's a bad guy.

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Chuck

Bonds without juice is an old broken down fly ball hitter at Shea. We already have too much of that on this team

bornredhead2

If Omar had to do THAT, he'd be falling all over himself to get it done.

As I said in the other thread, why not? It will be entertaining if nothing else.

KingOlerud

Only the Mets could sign the guy in his first year over the cliff. The moment Bonds puts on the orange and blue, you know he'll look more helpless than Karen Carpenter at a hot dog eating contest.