freakzilla11

LOL... what's next? It was WILLIE'S DECISION?

This team is so ****ed.

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NickPapagiorgio

I don't see what the problem with what Fred said. Omar wants 100% autonomy this is what he gets with it.

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freakzilla11

So I guess you missed the article this morning that states the Wilpons decided that Willie needed to be fired Sunday and Omar wanted to give Willie more time.

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NickPapagiorgio

Yeah I missed that.

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METSSC

How do you know what articles are accurate and which ones arent. Either you believe Mr Coupon or you think he's a lying piece of sh!t. I'm in the latter category.

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The McGimpy does most things upside down: eats, sleeps (an average of 23 hours per day), mates, and gives birth. Because of the McGimpy's upside down life, many of the McGimpy's internal organs (liver, stomach, spleen, pancreas) are in different positions from other mammals. McGimpy sometimes lets out a cry or hissing sound.

During the rare times the McGimpy goes down to the ground (such as to change trees for food), it moves very slowly.

freakzilla11

I was incorrect... it was Eddie C, not a news article.

Willie Fired - Jerry Manuel in -- Official

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ultramet

I just was listening to Mets beat reporters on SNY, and they said that if you believe that Omar had full autonomy with this decision, then I have a bridge in Whitestone that I'd like to sell you. This decision was Jeff Wilpons plain and simple.
Omar did not want to fire Willie for several reasons (including Willie would always be a buffer for Omar and also because Omar had a great deal of loyalty and respect for Willie). I truly believe that the Wilpons gave Omar an ultimatum. Either fire Willie ASAP or else. Omar couldn't bring himself to fire him on Father's Day. So they flew the West Coast, with Omar probably planning to fire him after this trip. The Wilpons probably had had enough and handed Omar an ultimatum..Fire Willie or else. With the Mariners firing their GM earlier in the day, I bet Omar was also thinking about his job.

So so much for autonomy. The Wilpons are very PR conscious and knew that having Omar being the "fall guy" would be a great idea.

Gregory Gewirtz

True. However, I think it's possible that there's some grey area in there between 100% Omar autonomy and 100% Wilpon ordering Omar to cashier Willie.

Perhaps, and I'm just speculating, Wilpon made it clear to Omar last week that if Willie isn't fired "soon," and there's no turnaround in the next few weeks, that both Omar and Willie would be offed. Then, it could be fairly said that Wilpon influenced the firing, but it was Omar who handled the details in an assinine way, doing it at 3:00 am in Anaheim.

It's implicit in Wilpon's claims of Omar's 100% autonomy that Wilpon could pull the plug on whoever he wants at any time, and even Omar is not braindead enough to totally disregard which way the wind is blowing among ownership. No matter what Wilpon says, it's understood that he has influence regarding baseball decisions.

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JonathanArcher

If this is the case, then why was Omar's right hand guy undermining willie at every turn?

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NickPapagiorgio

If that is honestly true then Omar should be fired on the spot. Father's Day? Really. Who the **** cares? It is a made up holiday by Hallmark. Mike Francessa is acting like firing him on Father's Day would be a akin to treason. Who the **** cares. Real people with real jobs are fired on all kinds of holidays, including real ones. Saturday was flag day as well. Guess that put the whole weekend off limits.

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ultramet

NIck read Buster Olney's blog excerpt in the Minaya Press conference IGT. It sums this up pretty well and ...yes..the Father's Day issue is real.

NeilAllen

Damn man, I don't know what your problem is.

That said, and I thought the Memorial day thing was bad...

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FrankStylV7

I once had a contract not renewed on a July 5th.

BTW - HOW do you whack a manager that "led" a team to a recent 3-1 record where he actually made some good, gutst moves?

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kingdiggler

I think firing someone on bring your child to work day is worse than shitcanning them on fathers day.

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It ain't socialism, it's his thug thizzle.

KingOlerud

Can't stand Omar, can't wait for him and his cronies to be gone... but this move has the hallmark stench of Wilpon.