A logical reason to keeping Delgado around all year

Mex17 · 06-13-2008, 04:40 PM

If they KNOW that he will not accept arbitration if they offer it to him after buying him out, I want those compensatory draft picks!

LAS VEGAS DAVE · 06-13-2008, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mex17

If they KNOW that he will not accept arbitration if they offer it to him after buying him out, I want those compensatory draft picks!

Wouldn't Mets have to offer lots of $$$ in arbitration?

Mex17 · 06-13-2008, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by LAS VEGAS DAVE

Wouldn't Mets have to offer lots of $$$ in arbitration?

I would have to have an iron clad guarantee from Sloane that he would not accept the offer, so the amount of money would be a moot point if it were up to me to offer or not.

FrankStylV7 · 06-13-2008, 04:59 PM

the most they could cut him if he accepted arbitration is 20%.

Do you think that he'd turn down a guaranteed 1 year / $13.6 million contract?

I don't.

FrankStylV7 · 06-13-2008, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mex17

I would have to have an iron clad guarantee from Sloane that he would not accept the offer, so the amount of money would be a moot point if it were up to me to offer or not.

c-o-l-l-u-s-i-o-n

FrankStylV7 · 06-13-2008, 05:00 PM

BTW - does ANYONE think that ANY team would give up their first round pick for CARLOS DELGADO?????

Paulie Cee · 06-13-2008, 05:01 PM

I thought this was going be about ensuring no terrorist attacks at Citifield.

dak11 · 06-13-2008, 05:08 PM

I like how this thread is a LOGICAL reason to keep Delgado all year as long as the Mets risk offering him arbitration for ~13 mil at a minimum, his agent offers up an iron-clad guarantee he won't accept (really don't know how that's possible), and with another team willing to give up their potential 1st round pick for a guy who hasn't hit for over 2 years.

Lot's of flaws with that logic if you ask me.

FrankStylV7 · 06-13-2008, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dak11

I like how this thread is a LOGICAL reason to keep Delgado all year as long as the Mets risk offering him arbitration for ~13 mil at a minimum, his agent offers up an iron-clad guarantee he won't accept (really don't know how that's possible), and with another team willing to give up their potential 1st round pick for a guy who hasn't hit for over 2 years.

Lot's of flaws with that logic if you ask me.

Scroll up, you actually agree with ME here.

Someone check to see if four really ugly dudes riding horses are galloping over the yonder hills...

metsguy31 · 06-13-2008, 05:15 PM

except he wouldn't be a type A free agent since his last 2 years before free agency have been utter $hit

tfc3rid · 06-13-2008, 05:16 PM

I think Delgrbage accepts arbitration if it's offered by the Mets...

I mean, is a 'real' team going to offer him $10M+/year... No way... Mets won't get a pick for him...

Based on his current stats though, would he even be a Type B?

mike rithjen · 06-13-2008, 05:17 PM

This is my first post....so please be gentle....

I think a MORE logical reason could be the fact that Gimpy at 2b has 3 years left on his contract and the Mets have already internally accepted the fact that they will have to eat some of his contract.

Given the fact that this season is lost(or almost lost)...why eat Delgado's contract, when you are going to have to do the same for Castillo?

Just one guy's take....

FrankStylV7 · 06-13-2008, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mike rithjen

This is my first post....so please be gentle....

I think a MORE logical reason could be the fact that Gimpy at 2b has 3 years left on his contract and the Mets have already internally accepted the fact that they will have to eat some of his contract.

Given the fact that this season is lost(or almost lost)...why eat Delgado's contract, when you are going to have to do the same for Castillo?

Just one guy's take....

Getting him out of the clubhouse NOW, rather than simply not bringing him back with a new contract (God FORBID...), would send a message that lethargic, apathetic play is unacceptable.

Castillo may be gimpy and not worth his contract, but he seems to at least play hard. He dives for balls and never ends a game with a clean uniform. On the other hand, Delgado's dry cleaner is threatening to sue him for lack of support.

Gentle enough? I eased you in because you're a virgin here, but don't expect me to be nearly as friendly the next time.

mike rithjen · 06-13-2008, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by FrankStylV7

Getting him out of the clubhouse NOW, rather than simply not bringing him back with a new contract (God FORBID...), would send a message that lethargic, apathetic play is unacceptable.

Castillo may be gimpy and not worth his contract, but he seems to at least play hard. He dives for balls and never ends a game with a clean uniform. On the other hand, Delgado's dry cleaner is threatening to sue him for lack of support.

Gentle enough? I eased you in because you're a virgin here, but don't expect me to be nearly as friendly the next time.

well my cherry is popped now, I guess.

I don't disagree with one thing you are saying...I think Delgado should be gone yesterday....he is one of the biggest (if not the biggest) cancers within this organization.

I was only trying to understand why he has not been set loose...and since the Wilpon's have flocked more toward money than common sense, it was what I came up with.

FrankStylV7 · 06-13-2008, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mike rithjen

well my cherry is popped now, I guess.

I don't disagree with one thing you are saying...I think Delgado should be gone yesterday....he is one of the biggest (if not the biggest) cancers within this organization.

I was only trying to understand why he has not been set loose...and since the Wilpon's have flocked more toward money than common sense, it was what I came up with.

I have no earthly idea. They got rid of George Foster in 1986 under very similar circumstances - bad clubhouse guy coupled with little or no production - and he was one of the 5 highest paid guys in MLB at the time.

I don't get it either.

BTW - I am honored to have been "your first".

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FrankStylV7 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Up your Mom's filthy snatch Posts: 6,775	the most they could cut him if he accepted arbitration is 20%. Do you think that he'd turn down a guaranteed 1 year / $13.6 million contract? I don't. __________________ "The place where optimism most flourishes is the lunatic asylum." - Havelock Ellis

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06-13-2008, 05:01 PM	#7 (permalink)
Paulie Cee Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Well, we'll know in a month, you miserable shitstain. Posts: 5,914	I thought this was going be about ensuring no terrorist attacks at Citifield.

06-13-2008, 05:08 PM	#8 (permalink)
dak11 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,412	I like how this thread is a LOGICAL reason to keep Delgado all year as long as the Mets risk offering him arbitration for ~13 mil at a minimum, his agent offers up an iron-clad guarantee he won't accept (really don't know how that's possible), and with another team willing to give up their potential 1st round pick for a guy who hasn't hit for over 2 years. Lot's of flaws with that logic if you ask me.

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metsguy31 Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 137	except he wouldn't be a type A free agent since his last 2 years before free agency have been utter $hit

06-13-2008, 05:16 PM	#11 (permalink)
tfc3rid Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 850	I think Delgrbage accepts arbitration if it's offered by the Mets... I mean, is a 'real' team going to offer him $10M+/year... No way... Mets won't get a pick for him... Based on his current stats though, would he even be a Type B?

06-13-2008, 05:17 PM	#12 (permalink)
mike rithjen Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 195	This is my first post....so please be gentle.... I think a MORE logical reason could be the fact that Gimpy at 2b has 3 years left on his contract and the Mets have already internally accepted the fact that they will have to eat some of his contract. Given the fact that this season is lost(or almost lost)...why eat Delgado's contract, when you are going to have to do the same for Castillo? Just one guy's take....

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