Why Willie Sucks Ass Pt Infinity

FrankStylV7 · 06-12-2008, 08:22 AM

He manages his team in an effort to not lose, ergo not lose his job, rather than to win.

An old mentor of mine taught me - "if you manage a business like you're afraid to get fired you will never succeed".

mets84 · 06-12-2008, 08:29 AM

You think so? Sometimes I think he's trying to get fired.

Medfordian Slip · 06-12-2008, 08:46 AM

If I was a manager of a bunch of losers I'd want to get fired.

Sports Doctor · 06-12-2008, 10:14 AM

why the **** did he remove pelfrey last night. how much better is this kid going to look that he'll have an opportunity to close a game. one bloop hit and he takes him out? pelfrey has to throw a no hitter to go 9 innings? Let the kid finish the damn game, he was still throwing 95 and the dbacks hadnt touched him for 8 innings prior. Willie needs to go.

Medfordian Slip · 06-12-2008, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Sports Doctor

why the **** did he remove pelfrey last night. how much better is this kid going to look that he'll have an opportunity to close a game. one bloop hit and he takes him out? pelfrey has to throw a no hitter to go 9 innings? Let the kid finish the damn game, he was still throwing 95 and the dbacks hadnt touched him for 8 innings prior. Willie needs to go.

By the books baaaabbbbbyyyyyy!!!

Heaven forbid he actually give the pathetic bullpen the night off.

TheBigScungilli · 06-12-2008, 10:22 AM

He isn't a manager, and I doubt he could bench manage if asked.

RkFast · 06-12-2008, 10:29 AM

While Id like to see Pelf finish the deal, Willie went to his closer, who is SUPPOSED to be one of the best ever, RIGHT?

Cant get on Willie for that move.

Sports Doctor · 06-12-2008, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RkFast

While Id like to see Pelf finish the deal, Willie went to his closer, who is SUPPOSED to be one of the best ever, RIGHT?

Cant get on Willie for that move.

I agree but still, not a complete game since 06? This franchise needs to take the damn tampon out.

dak11 · 06-12-2008, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Sports Doctor

why the **** did he remove pelfrey last night. how much better is this kid going to look that he'll have an opportunity to close a game. one bloop hit and he takes him out? pelfrey has to throw a no hitter to go 9 innings? Let the kid finish the damn game, he was still throwing 95 and the dbacks hadnt touched him for 8 innings prior. Willie needs to go.

How many pitches did you want to allow him to throw?

Sports Doctor · 06-12-2008, 11:16 AM

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How many pitches did you want to allow him to throw?

Whatever it took, if he gave up a run then Id pull him. Had 3 to work with. Every decision cant be based on pitch count

dak11 · 06-12-2008, 11:25 AM

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Whatever it took, if he gave up a run then Id pull him. Had 3 to work with. Every decision cant be based on pitch count

There comes a time when every pitcher is done and at 112 pitches at that point after giving up a hit you can't fault taking him out.

Your 'Whatever it took' comment is just idiocy.

Sports Doctor · 06-12-2008, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dak11

There comes a time when every pitcher is done and at 112 pitches at that point after giving up a hit you can't fault taking him out.

Your 'Whatever it took' comment is just idiocy.

No, you're an idiot. When is the next time Pelfrey is going to have a chance to go 9. you're telling me an extra 20 pitches on one start is going to blow a guys arm out? Ok Rick Peterson.

dak11 · 06-12-2008, 11:36 AM

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No, you're an idiot. When is the next time Pelfrey is going to have a chance to go 9. you're telling me an extra 20 pitches on one start is going to blow a guys arm out? Ok Rick Peterson.

20 pitches is a lot different then 'whatever it takes', which could theoretically be an infinite amount.

I also don't see the bonus (or what's gained) in having him go 9 innings. Willie gave him the chance by allowing him to start to 9th.

Mets bs · 06-12-2008, 11:44 AM

IMO Pelfrey should have faced one more batter, but I see no problem bringing Wagner in. As mentioned, he's your closer and you need to trust him in a spot like that.

Sports Doctor · 06-12-2008, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by dak11

20 pitches is a lot different then 'whatever it takes', which could theoretically be an infinite amount.

I also don't see the bonus (or what's gained) in having him go 9 innings. Willie gave him the chance by allowing him to start to 9th.

It was an exaggeration , I would not let the guy go 200 pitches, but how many possible pitches is he going to throw before hes in a real jam (not a bloop hit) or gets out of the jam with a quick DP or whatnot.

06-12-2008, 08:22 AM	#1 (permalink)
FrankStylV7 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Up your Mom's filthy snatch Posts: 6,870	Why Willie Sucks Ass Pt Infinity He manages his team in an effort to not lose, ergo not lose his job, rather than to win. An old mentor of mine taught me - "if you manage a business like you're afraid to get fired you will never succeed". __________________ meta is meruder. sweete delivious mruedure.

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Medfordian Slip Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Omar - please get a real bullpen and an outfielder Posts: 1,745	If I was a manager of a bunch of losers I'd want to get fired. __________________ Cramped, dirty, smelly...Yankee Stadium is every bit the dump Shea Stadium is, only with less room to move around. Good riddance to the House Steinbrenner rebuilt. Busyman

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RkFast Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,158	While Id like to see Pelf finish the deal, Willie went to his closer, who is SUPPOSED to be one of the best ever, RIGHT? Cant get on Willie for that move. __________________ "The only long term solution to avoiding war is being stronger than your enemies AND showing the resolve to use that strength." --Mule

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06-12-2008, 10:14 AM	#4 (permalink)
Sports Doctor Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,167	why the **** did he remove pelfrey last night. how much better is this kid going to look that he'll have an opportunity to close a game. one bloop hit and he takes him out? pelfrey has to throw a no hitter to go 9 innings? Let the kid finish the damn game, he was still throwing 95 and the dbacks hadnt touched him for 8 innings prior. Willie needs to go.

06-12-2008, 10:22 AM	#6 (permalink)
TheBigScungilli Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 203	He isn't a manager, and I doubt he could bench manage if asked.

06-12-2008, 11:44 AM	#14 (permalink)
Mets bs Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 795	IMO Pelfrey should have faced one more batter, but I see no problem bringing Wagner in. As mentioned, he's your closer and you need to trust him in a spot like that.

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