Deepleft34

I want to preface this by saying I currently hate the compostion of this team. I do not think this team is a contender and by no stretch of the imagination will my silly trade proposals magically transform this team...but I think they may be more balanced and easier to watch. I just want the following players gone and this is how I see it able to unfold:

Heilman and Pelfrey for Adam Dunn
Delgado for Richie Sexson
Castillo and Carp for Barry Zito and Cash (Peterson can fix him )
Oliver Perez for Clint Barmes and Willie Tavarez

Reyes
Barmes
Beltran
Dunn
Wright
Church
Sexson
Schneider

Santana
Pedro
Maine
Zito
Vargas/Duque?

I hate Heilman and he needs to go. Pelfrey is a friggin head case and I don't see him as an answer either. If we can negotiate w/ Dunn, lets say a 72 window, then do it.

Delgado for Sexson is crap for crap. Sexson, who is also town piriah in Seattle for his low batting average, is a better fielder, taller, more of a power threat and right handed, which makes him better for this team. BTW, he is not Delgado, which is a good thing. Money is a wash.

Castillo and Carp for Barry Zito may be the riskiest WATP because of Zito's years and dollars, but Castillo is a bum on bum knees. If SF throws in cash that will even out money for the next 3.68 years, then I wouldn't mind being on the hook for the last 3 years if Peterson could straighten him out. Maybe the pressure of being THE NUMBER 1 GUY got to him.

Perez is an enigma wrapped inside a riddle, covered in a paradox. I cannot stand watching this guy pitch anymore. We could take advantage of Colorado's 2nd base logjam and snag a potential 2nd team all-star in the making in Clint Barmes. With getting Tavarez we could finally rid ourselves of the infielders who need to play OF because we don't have any extra OF's problem.

Figueroa replaces Heilman as the long man - you knew I'd work him in there.

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Deepleft34

or we could just send everyone to the minors.

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kingdiggler

Why would the reds want pelfrey and heilman? I'm sure they can get better for dunn at the deadline.

The second one would serve zero purpose. He isn't that much of a better fielder.

Castillo is old. Don't you think SF is rebuilding? Why would they be on the hook for castillo for 3 years after this? Zito isn't that old so maybe they hang onto him for a bit.

I don't think the rockies would be interested in perez. They aren't competing for anything right now. They wouldn't resign him as they already have youngsters in Reynolds, Jiminez and Morales in the rotation along with Francis. I don't see OP fitting in with their plans.

Deep, when you do these WATP you might want to do ones that give something of value to both teams.

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A$$hole from El Paso

Delgado, Heilman, Pelfrey, Carp and $3 million for Dunn with a negotiating window.

For Cincy -- salaries are a wash. They're likely going to lose Dunn to free agency anyway. Assuming they don't sign Delgado, they have Heilman, Pelfrey and Carp instead of draft picks. Say what you will, but Heilman has had ML success. Most draft choices don't. Pelfrey still has potential. Carp has hitting potential, but appears to have been passed by Murphy on the depth chart.

For the Mets, you have to give something to get something. While most people feel Heilman and Pelfrey are junk, Carp is not. However, if you want Cincy to bite at the Heilman, Pelfrey, Carp part of the deal, you make them take something you don't want.

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metman

Why would we trade Carp for another overpaid slow strike out machine who doesn't deliver big hits? And we piss away Pelfrey? Why is it other young pitchers, even veterans, can struggle but not our young pitchers?

No wonder nobody wants to play for us as a first choice and our owners never rebuild. Fans are way too ****ing fickle and impatient.

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Deepleft34

1. As a potential Free Agent the Reds MIGHT NOT get much better than Pelfrey and Heilman, who many teams might still like as a starter. the same could have been said for Santana and the Twins.

2. The 2nd one serves a couple of purposes: Sexson is a much better fielder than Delgado and being 6'7", does not get overthrown much. he is right handed and balances out left handed line up. He adds more of a power threat than Delgado can. He is also in the last year of his contract and is universally booed in Seattle. BTW, did I mention he is not Delgado?

3. SF is getting killed by the Zito signing. They do not have a lot of financial flexibility and the team is a couple of years away from competing. Lifting the contract of Zito can allow a not so big market team like SF TO rebuild. But who would take him? Only a team like the mets, Yankees, Red Sox or Dodgers.

4. Perez would be a young potential ace, and a team like Colorado could use him or flip him.

There, thought out responses.

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