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Old 05-28-2008, 01:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have to admit that I have sort of missed the boat on this guy over the years. I had him pegged as a real Kingman-type, but as it turns out the OBP and OPS are more than respectable over a pretty extended period.

I can see him in LF field next year while Evans and Carp provide a cheap platoon at first base.
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I have to admit that I have sort of missed the boat on this guy over the years. I had him pegged as a real Kingman-type, but as it turns out the OBP and OPS are more than respectable over a pretty extended period.

I can see him in LF field next year while Evans and Carp provide a cheap platoon at first base.
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He will make you remember Kingman's defensive prowess, too, unfortunately. He belongs at 1B but prefers the OF. God help Carlos Beltran if this were to happen!
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Over-rated and not worth what it'll cost.
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Over-rated and not worth what it'll cost.
He's not nearly as bad as you think he is. The BA (which you think is overrated) is the only major negative in his offensive game. He K's a lot, but that being a negative is debateable.

The man has a CAREER OPS over .900. He walks a ton, he hits for power, and while he won't make anyone think of Keith Hernandez or Larry Walker in the field, he isn't the worst out there in the world.

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He's not nearly as bad as you think he is. The BA (which you think is overrated) is the only major negative in his offensive game. He K's a lot, but that being a negative is debateable.

The man has a CAREER OPS over .900. He walks a ton, he hits for power, and while he won't make anyone think of Keith Hernandez or Larry Walker in the field, he isn't the worst out there in the world.

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Never said he was bad. I said he's over-rated and not worth what he'll look for in terms of a contract (I'd guess in the 15+ mil area).
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Never said he was bad. I said he's over-rated and not worth what he'll look for in terms of a contract (I'd guess in the 15+ mil area).
how is he over rated? who over rates him?

the stats are right there in front of you, he is what he is.
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how is he over rated? who over rates him?

the stats are right there in front of you, he is what he is.
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All or nothing.
Not based on the stats I see. A career .382 OBP does not connotate "all or nothing" to me.
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All or nothing Or a WALK.
That's how he gets better numbers than he actually does. He also got pitched around alot in cincy since griffey was hurt and he had little protection in the lineup.
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Anyone who thinks he's worth close to 15 mil a year.
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That's how he gets better numbers than he actually does. He also got pitched around alot in cincy since griffey was hurt and he had little protection in the lineup.

How do you get better numbers than you actually do? Is walking bad? Would he be that much better if ten or twenty of his walks were singles instead? And whose to say walks aren't better than singles in many ways? Fielders prefer singles over walks, I'll tell you that.
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His OBP is inflated from his walks as his low average would indicate. I don't mind the walks, but you really expect someone on this team to drive him in? I wouldn't mind having dunn on the team, but he really is homer or k with walks.
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His OBP is inflated from his walks as his low average would indicate. I don't mind the walks, but you really expect someone on this team to drive him in? I wouldn't mind having dunn on the team, but he really is homer or k with walks.
He gets his 30 or so doubles per year as well.

Put him fourth in the lineup in front of Wright and Church and he should get pitches to hit (along with what I am assuming is a good eye. . .can you really attribute ALL of those walks to him being pitched around?). Put him behind Beltran and I'll bet that Carlos's power comes back in 2009.
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How do you get better numbers than you actually do? Is walking bad? Would he be that much better if ten or twenty of his walks were singles instead? And whose to say walks aren't better than singles in many ways? Fielders prefer singles over walks, I'll tell you that.
Minor point, but you can't really think a single isn't better then a walk.
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