Big Denny

I was doing a bit of research on Obie and he seems to have an excellent track record, albeit in the minors. He started out in the independant league, took his team to the post season there, and has taken Met minor league teams to the post season at every level and was named IL manager of the year in 2005. Guys who have played for him say nothing but great things about him.

So, I am listening to Boomer and that other loudmouth on the FAN this morning and they threw out a few names of guys who should be on the short list. Obie wasn't one of them. Seems to me that he'd be the perfect choice. Unlike guys with name recognition, like Bobby V who isn't coming anyway, he wouldn't command a long term deal.

So why shouldn't they give him a shot? Would people rather have Manuel or Maz?

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freakzilla11

There are career minor league players, maybe the same holds true for managers as well.

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Bay Ridge Dave

Off topic (though I think Obie should be the choice, even though we know he won't be).

One interesting point that Mike F was making just now was the no way is Omar, who DOES have a huge ego, according to some, going to hire someone who could be "bigger" than him in terms of popularity with fans and management. Basically, IMO, someone he can step on easily, and allow him to do his BS (cronies on the roster, Tony B in the clubhouse, etc) without resistance. That's why Mike rules out guys like Backman, Keith, etc... these guys wouldn't take sh!t from the GM...

MajorRanger35

Racism.

Wait, what?

graves9

Not a big surprise. That is probably why he hired Steamboat over Leyland back in the winter of '04. That might be a reason why Bobby V won't be in consideration when the 'boat finally gets his walking papers.

Wildboys

if willie is fired, Manuel will be the interim for the remainder of the year. he's managed before, so it makes sense. In the offseason, a review of manuel will be made, and then a permanent manager will be chosen, manuel or otherwise. However, guys like peterson, alomar, etc, may be gone as well.

Maybe they make Hojo manager. He's a fan favorite though, and would be VERY hard to fire if it didnt work out. Would be interesting to see Hojo managing, and maybe Ronnie leaves the booth to be pitching coach. Bring Mookie back to coach first too.

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graves9

HoJo as Manager? He hasn't even done a good job as the hitting coach. Darling is sure gonna leave a great no pressure job to be a pitching coach and have to deal with guys like Perez and Heilman.

Mex17

The reason why Oberkfell has not been mentioned in the media is because people in the media are lazy, overpaid, fatcats who are allergic to anything resembing thought and research. Oberkfell is tucked away in AAA so that means that he is not on their radar screens. All they can do is regurgitate names of easily accessible retreads. Do you think that most of them have bothered to consider Backman in their minds either??

Also, like I said in another thread, it is worth noting that the last two World Series Mets teams were managed by men who they promoted from AAA (Davey and Valentine).

That said, I am still a bit worried that Oberkfell's reported "let the professionals handle their business", though not incorrect or effective under the right circumstances, might not be the tactic needed for this group. I would rather see him over Manuel because I think they need a completely new presence in that clubhouse, but I need to know more about Mazzilli's time in Baltimore.

Mex17

Darling is making a very nice career for himself as a broadcaster. . .he is not going to give that up so that he can roll the dice on a job that he has no experience performing at.

graves9

That is exactly what I said.

Mex17

You're right, my bad.

Sorry.

SI Metman

**** that, let's go with this coaching staff:

Manager - Backman
Bench Coach/Catching Instructor - Carter
Hitting Coach - Keith
Pitching Coach - Darling
Bullpen Coach - Orosco
First Base/Outfielder Coach - Mookie
Third Base Coach/Infielder Coach - HoJo
Drug Dealer - Gooden
Boxing Instructor - Knight
Team Psychiatrist - Mitchell
Gambling Instructor - Dykstra

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MetfanBren

It's starting to really look that way. Granted they don't have a lot down there, but even guys like Rubin don't seem to believe that New Orleans exists anymore. I've seen several people rightly take issue with calling up Cassanova again for Alou, but none of them have suggested that it should have been an OF with great numbers and some pop like Pascucci instead. A few places have even stated that Cassanova was the only major league ready bat...

Armas is having a hell of a year down there as well, but has never been mentioned as a spot starter. I've seen Bostick and his 7.00 ERA get more ink...

NeilAllen

Now I always liked Oberkfell more as permanent offseason replacement material, rather than midseason-interim fodder but the more I see moves like this the more impatient I get for someone with actual working knowledge of our farm system in a position of some authority. Perhaps if he were the manager Oberkfell could bring along that Ofer and maybe a first baseman or two with him.

In any event if they were brought up you know it'd be someone he'd feel very comfortable using and not prattle on about "dues".

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