Collapse? What Collapse? This is your team.

Wildboys · 04-09-2008, 12:41 AM

So over the first 6 games, it seems the team is doing the exact same thing they did in september. EXACT same thing. Which now begs the question....

Was 2006 the Mets' year? Was the first 3/4 of 2007 just some leftovers, but eventually the team balanced itself out? Is this year just a continuation of that balance?

So really, maybe there was no "collapse." Maybe the team was just playing the way it was capable of playing. And now in 2008, its a continuation of that. This is your mets.

Discuss...

RkFast · 04-09-2008, 12:53 AM

You CANT assess a team after 6 games.

Table this "discussion" until the All Star Break. Even better, August.

MetfanBren · 04-09-2008, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RkFast

You CANT assess a team after 6 games.

Table this "discussion" until the All Star Break. Even better, August.

No way man! The Orioles, White Sox, Royals, Marlins, and Cards are all making the playoffs. The Mets, Yanks, Red Sox, Cubs, Indians, and Tigers have no chance...

SC = odds on the Marlins winning the NL East...

Mr. Met · 04-09-2008, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RkFast

You CANT assess a team after 6 games.

Table this "discussion" until the All Star Break. Even better, August.

Agreed. While none of us can be happy right now, talks of a "collapse" are WAYYYY premature. While I am very concerned the Manager and team look like they couldnt give a crap, and everything looks way too similar to the final weeks of last season..... its only ONE WEEK into the season. Hopefully, they will get out of their "funk" soon. I still feel this team can play much better than they are right now.

15 Day DL Alou · 04-09-2008, 08:08 AM

the Manager's biggest problem yesterday is the best lefty asset he had in the pen was not in the stadium until the 7th inning had apparently concluded. Feliciano was home tending to a family emergency and his original flight was cancelled and he was routed through Orlando.

Relief pitchers have bad years, but Schoenewiess ain't going to get it done at Shea. The Mets play in a division with a score of tremendous left handed power hitters and switch hitters who are more dangerous from the left side. Feliciano alone is not going to cut it, and I don't care to watch Schoenewiess try to fix himself.

While people whine about Castillo and the 5th starter, it is overlooked how this spot needs to be addresses, and not with tape, they need to get their hands on a serious lefty to shorten games.

Green Must Go · 04-09-2008, 08:55 AM

Until and if the Mets get "healthy", they are a .500 team.

mets84 · 04-09-2008, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Green Must Go

Until and if the Mets get "healthy", they are a .500 team.

Speaking of which, Duque's back in NY for an MRI...

When it rains, it pours...

Green Must Go · 04-09-2008, 09:54 AM

If the Mets lose today (probable) they will be 2-1 against crap teams and 0-4 against contenders.

MrHat · 04-09-2008, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 15 Day DL Alou

the Manager's biggest problem yesterday is the best lefty asset he had in the pen was not in the stadium until the 7th inning had apparently concluded. Feliciano was home tending to a family emergency and his original flight was cancelled and he was routed through Orlando.

Relief pitchers have bad years, but Schoenewiess ain't going to get it done at Shea. The Mets play in a division with a score of tremendous left handed power hitters and switch hitters who are more dangerous from the left side. Feliciano alone is not going to cut it, and I don't care to watch Schoenewiess try to fix himself.

While people whine about Castillo and the 5th starter, it is overlooked how this spot needs to be addresses, and not with tape, they need to get their hands on a serious lefty to shorten games.

They had Rincon who pitched extremely well during the spring after coming back nicely....not sure he's the "answer" but he cant be any worse than The Character....

mets84 · 04-09-2008, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Green Must Go

If the Mets lose today (probable) they will be 2-1 against crap teams and 0-4 against contenders.

'Course, that crap team is in first place right now...

15 Day DL Alou · 04-09-2008, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrHat

They had Rincon who pitched extremely well during the spring after coming back nicely....not sure he's the "answer" but he cant be any worse than The Character....

Perhaps not, but I am a patient man and I have no tolerance for Doug Sisk from the left side. He needs to go, now. I'd just assume watch Rincon struggle to achieve than more nibbling on the part of the character.

It was pointed out by some yesterday "that he did do his job" in inducing the groundball, but I seem to recall it was he who loaded the bases in order to need that groundball.

15 Day DL Alou · 04-09-2008, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Green Must Go

If the Mets lose today (probable) they will be 2-1 against crap teams and 0-4 against contenders.

not for nothing but one of those contenders I believe is no 0 wins 5 losses from their bullpen, that is a huge problem for them too.

The_Kings_of_Quit · 04-09-2008, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 15 Day DL Alou

Perhaps not, but I am a patient man and I have no tolerance for Doug Sisk from the left side. He needs to go, now. I'd just assume watch Rincon struggle to achieve than more nibbling on the part of the character.

It was pointed out by some yesterday "that he did do his job" in inducing the groundball, but I seem to recall it was he who loaded the bases in order to need that groundball.

Schoenweis himself said this after the game. Apparently, HE knows he's crap, too.

15 Day DL Alou · 04-09-2008, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Kings_of_Quit

Schoenweis himself said this after the game. Apparently, HE knows he's crap, too.

all kidding aside, at least he acknowledges his failure, but I have little faith he will get it together here.

Theduder · 04-09-2008, 12:34 PM

Jose Reyes.

When he stinks the Mets stink.

The Pen doesn't help either.

04-09-2008, 12:41 AM	#1 (permalink)
Wildboys Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 408	Collapse? What Collapse? This is your team. So over the first 6 games, it seems the team is doing the exact same thing they did in september. EXACT same thing. Which now begs the question.... Was 2006 the Mets' year? Was the first 3/4 of 2007 just some leftovers, but eventually the team balanced itself out? Is this year just a continuation of that balance? So really, maybe there was no "collapse." Maybe the team was just playing the way it was capable of playing. And now in 2008, its a continuation of that. This is your mets. Discuss... __________________ __________________________________ Yankees Suck! D-Dubs for President!

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Green Must Go Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Obama has his eye on your wallet Posts: 11,993	Until and if the Mets get "healthy", they are a .500 team. __________________ Obama's least favorite scripture: Even while we were with you, you gave you this rule: "Whoever does not work should not eat." - 2 Thes 3:10

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15 Day DL Alou Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 2016 Posts: 6,026	the Manager's biggest problem yesterday is the best lefty asset he had in the pen was not in the stadium until the 7th inning had apparently concluded. Feliciano was home tending to a family emergency and his original flight was cancelled and he was routed through Orlando. Relief pitchers have bad years, but Schoenewiess ain't going to get it done at Shea. The Mets play in a division with a score of tremendous left handed power hitters and switch hitters who are more dangerous from the left side. Feliciano alone is not going to cut it, and I don't care to watch Schoenewiess try to fix himself. While people whine about Castillo and the 5th starter, it is overlooked how this spot needs to be addresses, and not with tape, they need to get their hands on a serious lefty to shorten games.

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Theduder Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 22	Jose Reyes. When he stinks the Mets stink. The Pen doesn't help either.

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