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Old 04-08-2008, 11:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Baerga, Robbie Alomar, Delgado

Who had the worst decline in a mets uni?
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Baerga was already halfway down the crapper when the Mets got him.

At least Delgado has a great 2006, though a very uninspired and monotony drenched 2007.

I'd say Alomar. He flat out sucked. Loved the trade.. hated him the second he was throwing parachutes from 2B.

On that subject, my most hated Met continues to be Tony Fernandez, the doggiest of Mets dogs.
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Alomar hands down.

As BRD pointed out, Baerga was not exactly beating the world down when he arrived.
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Within the last ten years, it has to be Alomar. The Mets expected an inner circle Hall of Famer and instead they got late-career Carlos Baerga. What a trainwreck.
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Baerga was already halfway down the crapper when the Mets got him
So was Alomar... if we're talking "decline," as in the guy declined in a Mets uniform, of those three it has to be Delgado by default. The guy was good, now he's not as good. Alomar was DOA.

You just have to hope that he can be better than he was last year, and that a Mike Carp or somebody has a tremendous year on the farm so that the Mets don't feel compelled to dump untold millions on an Adam Dunn this offseason. (Seriously, it seems like other teams pull serviceable first basemen out of their patoots, why not the Mets?).
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So was Alomar... if we're talking "decline," as in the guy declined in a Mets uniform, of those three it has to be Delgado by default. The guy was good, now he's not as good. Alomar was DOA.

You just have to hope that he can be better than he was last year, and that a Mike Carp or somebody has a tremendous year on the farm so that the Mets don't feel compelled to dump untold millions on an Adam Dunn this offseason. (Seriously, it seems like other teams pull serviceable first basemen out of their patoots, why not the Mets?).
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So was Alomar... if we're talking "decline," as in the guy declined in a Mets uniform, of those three it has to be Delgado by default. The guy was good, now he's not as good. Alomar was DOA.

You just have to hope that he can be better than he was last year, and that a Mike Carp or somebody has a tremendous year on the farm so that the Mets don't feel compelled to dump untold millions on an Adam Dunn this offseason. (Seriously, it seems like other teams pull serviceable first basemen out of their patoots, why not the Mets?).
Alomar was coming off an MVP caliber year, there was absolutely no reason to believe he would not be a .300 25 HR 90 RBI guy for the Mets, at least a couple of seasons.

Delgado's terrible year in a Mets uniform was ten times Alomar's best in a Met uniform.

The guy needs to perform this year without question, there is no need to make things up in order to make that point any clearer.
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I thought Mo Vaughn initially but wasn't he hurt before he got here?
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So was Alomar... if we're talking "decline," as in the guy declined in a Mets uniform, of those three it has to be Delgado by default. The guy was good, now he's not as good. Alomar was DOA.

You just have to hope that he can be better than he was last year, and that a Mike Carp or somebody has a tremendous year on the farm so that the Mets don't feel compelled to dump untold millions on an Adam Dunn this offseason. (Seriously, it seems like other teams pull serviceable first basemen out of their patoots, why not the Mets?).
Alomar was coming off a .330ish batting average, 20 HR, 100 RBI season with the Tribe before he was traded to the Mets. IMO, not exactly a sign of slowing down. He turned to sh!t the minute he became a Met. He played like a guy who did not want to be here.

Baerga, for all his faults and declining skills, did not dog it as a Met.
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So was Alomar...
Alomar was coming off a career year in 2001: .336 / 20 HR / 30 SB / 100 RBI while playing top-notch defense, all in his age-33 season. While some dropoff was expected, losing 250 points of OPS and becoming a defensive liability was totally unexpected.
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Alomar was coming off an MVP caliber year, there was absolutely no reason to believe he would not be a .300 25 HR 90 RBI guy for the Mets, at least a couple of seasons.

Delgado's terrible year in a Mets uniform was ten times Alomar's best in a Met uniform.

The guy needs to perform this year without question, there is no need to make things up in order to make that point any clearer.
I think we're arguing semantics here, but if the question was who declined most in a Mets uniform, technically it has to be Delgado. Delgado was good as a Met, now he's not as good. Alomar was never ever good in a Mets uni, so by definition he couldn't have declined in it. He was simply washed up as a Met from day one till the day he left. I'll grant that his overall fall was much more epic.
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If the argument is "declined the most in a Mets uniform," can I vote for Edgardo Alfonzo? Woof.

(On edit: Alfonzo bounced back more than I remembered in 2002, but he still wasn't anywhere near the 2000 version.)
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Then what is more painful? A sharp decline while here after a solid season as a met, or an all world player somewhere else then sucks the moment they put on the uni?
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A better question would be who cared the least. It's a tossup right now between the Salivator and the Meccanator.
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