Visit Our Sponsors

NY Sports Day Forums

Subscribe to NY Sportscene Magazine

Go Back   NY Sports Day Forums > Mets Online Fan Forum > New York Mets
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Visit Our Sponsors


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-06-2008, 05:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 101
Thumbs down Aaron F***in Heilman!!!

I'm really starting to despise this waste of a pitcher. An 8th inning pitcher he's not. Why do the Mets continue to push him in this role?
  Reply With Quote

Want fewer adverts? -Join NY Sportsday's Forums
Old 04-06-2008, 06:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Gregory Gewirtz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: within us all
Posts: 2,116
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bxmetsfan View Post
Why do the Mets continue to push him in this role?
At minimum, he's the best non-Wagner reliever in the bullpen. Heilman's frustrating as hell sometimes and when he doesn't get his changeup down he's absolute toast, but overall, he's done a reasonable job.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman, September 28, 2008
1. Fire Omar
2. Re-hire Omar so you can fire him again
3. Literally set Omar on fire.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2008, 06:09 PM   #3 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
ultramet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,381
Default

But as a setup guy he's never had BALLS. C'mon Yadier "f'ing" Molina defines your career??? This guy always looks as if circumstances dictate that he is going to pitch late in a tight game he is more than likely to serve up the big hit to the other team. His face often wreaks of failure and that is not good if you want to be a relief pitcher in close games.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2008, 06:30 PM   #4 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Omar - please get a real bullpen and an outfielder
Posts: 1,745
Default

One vagina went back to Atlanta, the other stayed with the Mets.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2008, 06:33 PM   #5 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Gregory Gewirtz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: within us all
Posts: 2,116
Default

Heilman has a great second half each of the last two seasons and he was one of the few players on the roster last September who didn't absolutely pack it in down the stretch. Aside from the Molina homer, Heilman was basically untouched in the 2006 playoffs. If you want to argue that calling attention to the entire playoffs instead of one at bat is sort of a "Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?"-type statement, that's fine, but I think it shows that Heilman has shown "balls" in October, besides in September and other months.

Heilman's no future closer and he definitely deserves his share of criticism when he walks the leadoff guy too often or when his changeup is hit 450 feet by some never-will-be, but I doubt you can find even a dozen non-closer righty full-inning set-up men who have been clearly and consistently better than him over the last three seasons.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman, September 28, 2008
1. Fire Omar
2. Re-hire Omar so you can fire him again
3. Literally set Omar on fire.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2008, 06:38 PM   #6 (permalink)
Super Moderator
 
No.1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Home of a MLS Cup Finalist
Posts: 5,445
Send a message via AIM to No.1
Default

Feelings is the team's 8th inning guy. There's no one else the team can trust with that role.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2008, 06:49 PM   #7 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Franco45's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 444
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by No.1 View Post
Feelings is the team's 8th inning guy. There's no one else the team can trust with that role.
Then we are f*cked
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2008, 06:54 PM   #8 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,091
Default

A pussy playing for a Pussy manager. When he moves on to another team he will be a allstar watch.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2008, 06:57 PM   #9 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,656
Default

You're either Pappelbon out of the gate or you aren't. Some guys are bulldogs and make it happen. Other guys are just soft. That's the only real reason I was scared of Pelfrey and worried about this pen. These guys don't have that intangible quality and I don't see the results changing over time in big games. What you see is what you get. No mirage.
__________________
SHUT Your FESTERING GOB...You TIT!
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2008, 07:05 PM   #10 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,080
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregory Gewirtz View Post
At minimum, he's the best non-Wagner reliever in the bullpen. Heilman's frustrating as hell sometimes and when he doesn't get his changeup down he's absolute toast, but overall, he's done a reasonable job.
I agree with you. I think he's a warm weather pitcher.He had a bad day, hope he doesn't have another one too soon.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2008, 07:10 PM   #11 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Hojo of 1991's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 3,363
Default

the problem is that he's the 8th inning guy, rather than the 7th inning where he should be. No way should he be as untouchable (tradewise) as he is on this club, but the fact is there is not ONE better pitcher in the pen. That is sad...
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2008, 07:12 PM   #12 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,112
Default

I know it's tired. But Heilman should be a starter, not a reliever, period.

He will go to another team, they will give him the ball every fifth day, and we will be fuming with anger when he goes 14-8 with an ERA under 4.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2008, 07:24 PM   #13 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Led, the Revenge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Si! Eeesa good!
Posts: 4,979
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SELL THE TEAM NOW!!!!!!!! View Post
I know it's tired. But Heilman should be a starter, not a reliever, period.

He will go to another team, they will give him the ball every fifth day, and we will be fuming with anger when he goes 14-8 with an ERA under 4.
LMAO. Right.

He's a good reliever however, and barring the odd meatball day he's above average by a fair bit.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2008, 07:28 PM   #14 (permalink)
Super Moderator
 
Bay Ridge Dave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Day-o, Day-ay-ay-o
Posts: 12,617
Send a message via Yahoo to Bay Ridge Dave
Default

So we're blaming HEILMAN, as opposed to the NOffense, who gave Mets fans us all of one run and the 2007-like LOB and C*cktease Dance?

Oh, and anyone else sick of Castillo and his slap hitting?

I'd bet that if the game stayed at 1-0, the Mets would have found a away NOT to score that run in the 9th.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2008, 07:34 PM   #15 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
METSSC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 8,674
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bay Ridge Dave View Post
So we're blaming HEILMAN, as opposed to the NOffense, who gave Mets fans us all of one run and the 2007-like LOB and C*cktease Dance?

Oh, and anyone else sick of Castillo and his slap hitting?

I'd bet that if the game stayed at 1-0, the Mets would have found a away NOT to score that run in the 9th.
Heilman could have given up 100 runs or none and it would have made no difference. I'm really worried about Reyes.

oh and 4 years of Castillo? Just shoot me
__________________
GET THE PIECE OF CRAP McGimpy OFF MY TEAM NOW!!!!!

The McGimpy does most things upside down: eats, sleeps (an average of 23 hours per day), mates, and gives birth. Because of the McGimpy's upside down life, many of the McGimpy's internal organs (liver, stomach, spleen, pancreas) are in different positions from other mammals. McGimpy sometimes lets out a cry or hissing sound.

During the rare times the McGimpy goes down to the ground (such as to change trees for food), it moves very slowly.
  Reply With Quote
 
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Heilman the.... leader? uphill struggle New York Mets 2 03-25-2008 05:14 PM
Heilman? (Someone had to ask...) Seaver41 Mets Archive 30 11-20-2007 10:49 PM
Aaron Rowand randy69usa Mets Archive 28 10-13-2007 07:50 PM
Heilman and the pen in general. Big Denny Mets Archive 10 07-26-2007 07:01 PM
Hank Aaron hates black people Led, the Revenge Mets Archive 7 05-17-2007 11:38 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:34 PM.


NY Sports Day
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2002-2008 Sportsday Publishing, LLC
SEO by vBSEO 3.1.0

NY Sports Day is an independent sports website that is not affiliated with any other news organization. We are not endorsed by or affiliated with the New York Mets, New York Yankees, Major League Baseball, New York Giants, New York Jets, National Football League, New York Knicks, New Jersey Nets, NBA, New York Rangers, New York Islanders, New Jersey Devils, NHL, MSG NJSEA or any other professional sports association or franchise.

For further copyright information click here. For our Terms of Service click here. For our Privacy Statement click here. For the Mets Official Site click here. For the Yankees Official Site click here. For the Giants Official Site click here. For the Jets Official Site click here. For the Knicks Official Site click here. For the Nets Official Site click here. For the Rangers Official Site click here. For the Islanders Official Site click here. For the Devils Official Site click here. Hockey photos courtesy of Altered States Photos. Used By Permission. Baseball pictures taken by David Whitham. Courtesy of kcmets. Logo by Marcos Batista.


Loans | Web Games | Facebook proxy list | Loans | Property in Spain

Sponsor

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64