Infusion of $160 Million Gives Mets a Chance to Spend - Page 3

Hilton · 01-08-2013, 11:44 AM

Wasnt 10mm. the number we heard at the start of the winter?

86mets · 01-10-2013, 12:40 PM

Enter Sandy-Man | Mets Merized Online

Seems like this article summarizes the full picture well..

I am of the opinion Sandy was brought in to stabilize upper management..whether he was fully aware how poor Wilpons were when he took job..debatable..but if if he did..people may question as to why he took job..maybe he thought if he can make lemonade out of urine..he will be perceived as genius..and prove that in his mind one can win with a sub 100 mil payroll in ny..?? Problem is..not at 50 mil.. and I also still question if he has full autonomy as depicted with Jeffy in the picture as much as he is with the rubberband over wallet..perhaps he does..IF THE PRICE IS RIGHT..

MetfanBren · 01-10-2013, 12:46 PM

Sandy was in charge of vetting all Latin prospects, and investigating those who were suspected of lying about their ages before, when he was sent to the Mets. Both seem like impossible and thankless jobs, but I would rather tackle the Mets than a whole bunch of countries...

I do believe he was lied to at least to a certain extent, because the Wilpon's are liars. Though I'm sure they'd prefer we refer to the lies as "changing realities," instead...

MindyMacready · 01-11-2013, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Hilton

Wasnt 10mm. the number we heard at the start of the winter?

And that "theoretically" assumed Wright's $16 mill option, rather than $8 mill extension AND Dickey's $6 mill option, rather than some $1.5 mill scrub.

Ergo, Plandy Planderson SHOULD HAVE - drumroll please - $22.5 MILLION in available cash.

Lying FUCKER.

86mets · 01-11-2013, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MindyMacready

And that "theoretically" assumed Wright's $16 mill option, rather than $8 mill extension AND Dickey's $6 mill option, rather than some $1.5 mill scrub.

Ergo, Plandy Planderson SHOULD HAVE - drumroll please - $22.5 MILLION in available cash.

Lying FUCKER.

Bucks salary cancelled out Dickeys option...but point taken..rest of it all true!

Assy_McGee · 01-11-2013, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 86mets

Bucks salary cancelled out Dickeys option...but point taken..rest of it all true!

not so fast...

Thole and Nickeas probably account for 2Ish million.

Hilton · 01-11-2013, 11:32 PM

The fans have a right to be critical of the lack of spending but you have to like the building blocks that consist of Harvey, Niese, Wheeler, Mejia, Familia, Syndergaard, Fulmer, Montero and Tapia. When was the last time the Mets that many talented young arms? Offensively, Wright is signed long term and if Ike Davis, Reuben Tejada, Wilmer Flores and Travis d'Arnaud continue to play well- the Mets will still suck in 2013 but there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

MindyMacready · 01-11-2013, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Hilton

The fans have a right to be critical of the lack of spending but you have to like the building blocks that consist of Harvey, Niese, Wheeler, Mejia, Familia, Syndergaard, Fulmer, Montero and Tapia. When was the last time the Mets that many talented young arms? Offensively, Wright is signed long term and if Ike Davis, Reuben Tejada, Wilmer Flores and Travis d'Arnaud continue to play well- the Mets will still suck in 2013 but there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

Uh huh...

Luscious Johnny D. · 01-11-2013, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MindyMacready

Uh huh...

He still hasn't taken the red pill.

Hilton · 01-12-2013, 11:40 AM

Tell me the last time they (Mets) had as much pitching depth in the minors? Mid 80's?

Sell the team NOW!!!!!! · 01-12-2013, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Hilton

The fans have a right to be critical of the lack of spending but you have to like the building blocks that consist of Harvey, Niese, Wheeler, Mejia, Familia, Syndergaard, Fulmer, Montero and Tapia. When was the last time the Mets that many talented young arms? Offensively, Wright is signed long term and if Ike Davis, Reuben Tejada, Wilmer Flores and Travis d'Arnaud continue to play well- the Mets will still suck in 2013 but there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

No outfielders, horrific BP, prospects can fail and do so more often than not, broke, stupid owner.

10 more years of misery, at least.

Hilton · 01-12-2013, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sell the team NOW!!!!!!

No outfielders, horrific BP, prospects can fail and do so more often than not, broke, stupid owner.

10 more years of misery, at least.

Now if Frank Cashen went by that theory of prospects can fail, the Mets would've never won in the mid 80's. The Mets have stock piled prospects in the event that a few of them turn out to be bust. I tend to think d'Arnaud, Flores, Wheeler, Syndergaard are the real deal.

I don't know what the Mets have in terms of outfielders and neither does anybody else. The current outfield could be a huge disapointment but it may surprise some people. I think Duda and Nieuwenhuis are better than expected. I predict that Cowgill and Baxter are useful.

Sports Doctor · 01-12-2013, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Hilton

Now if Frank Cashen went by that theory of prospects can fail, the Mets would've never won in the mid 80's. The Mets have stock piled prospects in the event that a few of them turn out to be bust. I tend to think d'Arnaud, Flores, Wheeler, Syndergaard are the real deal.

I don't know what the Mets have in terms of outfielders and neither does anybody else. The current outfield could be a huge disapointment but it may surprise some people. I think Duda and Nieuwenhuis are better than expected. I predict that Cowgill and Baxter are useful.

I predict that you don't know what you're talking about

Hilton · 01-14-2013, 12:48 AM

We'll have to see now won't we? wait until Duda and Nieuwenhuis prove to be a lot better than orginally thought and the Mets front office will receive the recognition they deserve in a couple of years.

MrHat · 01-14-2013, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hilton

The fans have a right to be critical of the lack of spending but you have to like the building blocks that consist of Harvey, Niese, Wheeler, Mejia, Familia, Syndergaard, Fulmer, Montero and Tapia. When was the last time the Mets that many talented young arms? Offensively, Wright is signed long term and if Ike Davis, Reuben Tejada, Wilmer Flores and Travis d'Arnaud continue to play well- the Mets will still suck in 2013 but there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

In the end the Mets are in a good position to start rebuilding from, but its ultimately going to be meaningless if they don't spend money - they aren't even investing money in their youth properly with chopping out minor league clubs and reducing the amount of scouting they have. They didn't take advantage of over spending in the draft when they could have and now they are stuck.

They've had similar talent before (mid 2000s saw a ton of good arms get traded and/or turn to busts - Kazmir, Peterson, Humber, Gaby Hernandez, Guerra, Pelfrey, Bannister, etc) and let it get away from them either by cutting corners or just bad luck....spending money doesn't always mean just throwing out huge contracts to MLers either....they haven't spent money organization WIDE...thats the scary part of all this. I'd feel a lot better about the Mets future right now if they were at least taking some of this money saved and putting it towards the rebuilding project through the minors/scouting/drafting, but right now its all just going to the banks.....and if that doesn't change, even this promising collection of kids aren't going to have the support they need to succeed.

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86mets Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Poconos, PA Posts: 4,539	Enter Sandy-Man \| Mets Merized Online Seems like this article summarizes the full picture well.. I am of the opinion Sandy was brought in to stabilize upper management..whether he was fully aware how poor Wilpons were when he took job..debatable..but if if he did..people may question as to why he took job..maybe he thought if he can make lemonade out of urine..he will be perceived as genius..and prove that in his mind one can win with a sub 100 mil payroll in ny..?? Problem is..not at 50 mil.. and I also still question if he has full autonomy as depicted with Jeffy in the picture as much as he is with the rubberband over wallet..perhaps he does..IF THE PRICE IS RIGHT.. __________________ ACCEPTED TRUTH: That I will be ROYALLY FCKED OVER by EVERY TEAM I ROOT FOR (METS, JETS & KNICKS) !!! Citifield & Mets...the place where Sluggers Careers go to DIE"** Last edited by 86mets : 01-10-2013 at 12:46 PM.

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MetfanBren Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Pearl River, NY Posts: 10,234	Sandy was in charge of vetting all Latin prospects, and investigating those who were suspected of lying about their ages before, when he was sent to the Mets. Both seem like impossible and thankless jobs, but I would rather tackle the Mets than a whole bunch of countries... I do believe he was lied to at least to a certain extent, because the Wilpon's are liars. Though I'm sure they'd prefer we refer to the lies as "changing realities," instead... __________________ "I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." ~ Joe Posnanski

01-11-2013, 11:32 PM	#37 (permalink)
Hilton Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Windermere, Florida Posts: 1,869	The fans have a right to be critical of the lack of spending but you have to like the building blocks that consist of Harvey, Niese, Wheeler, Mejia, Familia, Syndergaard, Fulmer, Montero and Tapia. When was the last time the Mets that many talented young arms? Offensively, Wright is signed long term and if Ike Davis, Reuben Tejada, Wilmer Flores and Travis d'Arnaud continue to play well- the Mets will still suck in 2013 but there is a light at the end of the tunnel. __________________ Nysportsday debut: 07-24-2007, 09:38 PM http://www.nysportsday.com/themofo2/...ested-bay.html

01-12-2013, 11:40 AM	#40 (permalink)
Hilton Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Windermere, Florida Posts: 1,869	Tell me the last time they (Mets) had as much pitching depth in the minors? Mid 80's? __________________ Nysportsday debut: 07-24-2007, 09:38 PM http://www.nysportsday.com/themofo2/...ested-bay.html

01-14-2013, 12:48 AM	#44 (permalink)
Hilton Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Windermere, Florida Posts: 1,869	We'll have to see now won't we? wait until Duda and Nieuwenhuis prove to be a lot better than orginally thought and the Mets front office will receive the recognition they deserve in a couple of years. __________________ Nysportsday debut: 07-24-2007, 09:38 PM http://www.nysportsday.com/themofo2/...ested-bay.html

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