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Old 11-21-2008, 01:30 AM   #46 (permalink)
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In the thread above this you have Utley who played half a season injured and led his team to a Championship. He didn't make one excuse or complain when the media probed him about a possible injury even when he was hitting like .150 for an entire month.

In this thread you have a relief pitcher who was part of a team that collapsed because of the bullpen and he is bitching and moaning about his role.

We need to clean house of these weasels and get some guys with character on this roster. Don't let the door hit you in the as$ Erin.
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Old 11-21-2008, 01:31 AM   #47 (permalink)
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Please do let him start, blowing the game in the 1st inning will save 2 hours of misery for me.
 
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Old 11-21-2008, 01:57 AM   #48 (permalink)
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I can see the Justice for Heilman Foundation hunting all those who didn't believe the first time he goes scoreless in a game. Whilst commisioning his HOF plaque.
See also Bannister, Brian.
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Heilman's push to change roles has received two important endorsements. Pitching coach Dan Warthen said, "I'm all for Aaron coming to Spring Training as a starter."

The other came from manager Jerry Manuel, who said, "For Aaron's benefit and for us as a team, we have to explore that option." source MLB.com
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Old 11-21-2008, 04:21 AM   #50 (permalink)
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The Comedian I'm not surprised. Warthen?!

Nails is dead on with his post. The team collapse, Feelings is bitching, and the two coaches are saying "OK!"

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Old 11-21-2008, 04:27 AM   #51 (permalink)
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See also Bannister, Brian.
No, this will be worse than Bannister. Much worse.
 
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Old 11-21-2008, 06:39 AM   #52 (permalink)
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No, this will be worse than Bannister. Much worse.
Yup, Bannister never had a one hitter (baby!).
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For all the crap he had to deal with in NY, Looper hasn't been a terrible 5th starter. If we could pawn Heilman off as a starter, we should be able to get more in return as he would be considered less than merely a "throw in".
 
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Please do let him start, blowing the game in the 1st inning will save 2 hours of misery for me.
I still don't understand how people don't like this guy.
 
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I still don't understand how people don't like this guy.
Me neither. His every post is like a tiny, grammatically incorrect gift from God.
 
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In the thread above this you have Utley who played half a season injured and led his team to a Championship. He didn't make one excuse or complain when the media probed him about a possible injury even when he was hitting like .150 for an entire month.

In this thread you have a relief pitcher who was part of a team that collapsed because of the bullpen and he is bitching and moaning about his role.

We need to clean house of these weasels and get some guys with character on this roster. Don't let the door hit you in the as$ Erin.
Actually it was "leaked" as a reason he was struggling.
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Heilman's push to change roles has received two important endorsements. Pitching coach Dan Warthen said, "I'm all for Aaron coming to Spring Training as a starter."

The other came from manager Jerry Manuel, who said, "For Aaron's benefit and for us as a team, we have to explore that option." source MLB.com
Well, this would certainly be a turn of events. After the absolutely miserable 2008 Heilman put together, Manuel and Warthen are seriously considering giving him a shot at the rotation?

Things must not look too good on the FA market for the Mets...

Btw, could you imagine if Heilman did make the rotation? How soon before Omar distances himself from the previous decision - "You know, that was Willie's and Rick's call. I, myself, have been a big supporter of Aaron's."
 
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Well, this would certainly be a turn of events. After the absolutely miserable 2008 Heilman put together, Manuel and Warthen are seriously considering giving him a shot at the rotation?

Things must not look too good on the FA market for the Mets...
How? The offseason just started.
 
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If the Mets sign Rodriguez and Cruz/Lyons plus another middle reliever, I see no reason why Aaron shouldn't be given a shot at the rotation. If he does well and there's no fit, he's an awesome trading chip (because the Mets could always say to other teams, "We'll just put him back into our bullpen if you don't make the deal worth our while."). If he does stick, there would be no need to re-sign Pedro, it gives Niese more time, and they focus solely on the front end, #2 starter whoever that ends up being.

With that said, I don't think it will work out well for him in the rotation, but who the f*ck knows with this team.
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If the Mets sign Rodriguez and Cruz/Lyons plus another middle reliever, I see no reason why Aaron shouldn't be given a shot at the rotation. If he does well and there's no fit, he's an awesome trading chip (because the Mets could always say to other teams, "We'll just put him back into our bullpen if you don't make the deal worth our while."). If he does stick, there would be no need to re-sign Pedro, it gives Niese more time, and they focus solely on the front end, #2 starter whoever that ends up being.

With that said, I don't think it will work out well for him in the rotation, but who the f*ck knows with this team.
Problem with this is Feelings camp is saying start me or trade me. If he doesn't win the spot, teams know he has to be traded.
 
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