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Old 09-27-2008, 02:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Looking ahead...to the offseason

The extra inning loss to the Cubs was the first time I realized the Mets could fall short of the advancing to the postseason. I honestly didn't think the Brewers would piece it together in time to make a serious run at the wild card. Now that we're behind 1 game with 2 left to play I can't help but think about the offseason.

Bullpen
How does Omar repair the bullpen? Joe Smith is worth bringing back. Luis Ayala is a free agent who the Mets could resign as a set up man. Who replaces Billy Wagner? Sure it wouldn't cost the Mets talent to sign K-Rod but does it make sense to offer a 5 or 6 year contract? Especially with Wagner on the payroll for one more year. Perhaps the Mets trade for Huston Street who struggled in Oakland but has talent and is still young. Would the Royal trade Soria to the Mets? What other options are available?

Oliver Perez and Pedro Martinez
Since Boras is the agent for Ollie, I'm going to assume that he'll demand top dollar over 4 years. I personally don't think Ollie is worth more than 8 million a year for 3 seasons. Unfortunately the Mets are backed into a corner because Maine is coming off an injury and Pedro is likely to retire or sign elsewhere.
Lets assume the Mets resign Perez, who is going to replace Pedro? Niese, Parnell and Heilman are options. Omar isn't likely to pay top dollar for a free agent pitcher like Sabathia or Burnett. The alternative could be Odalis Perez, Kyle Lohse or John Garland....ugh.

Leftfield
The Mets are likely to move Daniel Murphy to second base for next season. Who replaces Murphy in leftfield? Nick Evans or Fernando Martinez may be an option. The Mets could resign Fernando Tatis. Omar may target Manny Ramirez or Raul Ibanez who are free agents. Ramirez is likely to demand a multi year deal at age 37. Ibanez is also past his prime. I say a platoon of F-Mart and Nick Evan would be the best option for the Mets.
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Old 09-27-2008, 02:19 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Easy for Omar

Manny gets a 100 million dollar deal
Delgado option picked up+3 year extension
Ibanez 4 year 75 mil deal
Krod 6 year 90 mil deal
Say the bullpen is all good and had a down year and that Krod will make them all better and is the savior
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Old 09-27-2008, 02:33 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Seriously, Hilton....I don't post in the Met's forum much but unless you can bring back that bouncin' boob avatar, shut the **** up.
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Old 09-27-2008, 06:45 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I say take a page out of the Marlins playbook and have a huge going out of business sale at the end of the season.

Trade Wright, Reyes, Castillo, Beltran and the "bullpen" start the F over.

Do not bring any of the coaching staff back.

Get rid of Omar...please take back the contract and say it was a tease.

I rather go into next season knowing that there is some sort of plan than go through a third season of getting your heart ripped out thinking that this poor excuse of a team had the balls to compete.

Sure, this is a knee jerk reaction and sure some of you might think that I don't know crap about baseball or evaluating talent, but you know what, I guess that makes me qualified to be the GM for this pitiful excuse of a team.

How can team as "talented" as this one continue to come up small when it knows it needs to play big? If they can't handle the pressure these last two years, does anyone really think next year they can? Or the year after that?

I'll root for them again next year because I'm a f'ing idiot and living overseas and in Texas, what other possiblities do I really have? I won't give up my New York roots and "clap*clap*clap" for the Texas Rangers or perish the thought the Yankees so I'm stuck with the Mets through thick and thin...mainly thin. Much like the chances they have of winning these last two games.
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Seriously, Hilton....I don't post in the Met's forum much but unless you can bring back that bouncin' boob avatar, shut the **** up.
Oh, man, that's cold.

Hysterically funny, but cold...
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Old 09-27-2008, 09:56 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Manny is a hitting machine and probably will be worth a look see.

Mets will not resign Perez after his last horrible start and the fact that Boras will demand top dollars. Don't even go there with Heilman being an option. That guy is gone period.

And I agree 100%. Bring back the bouncing boobs!!!!
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I am ready to blow this whole thing up.

This group had 4 years to get it done.

Wright, Reyes, Beltran, Murphy, Evans, Church, Pelfrey, Santana, Maine, Neise are the names that come to mind with regards to who should stay, and be on the 2009 Mets roster.

The rest are fair game, IMO.

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Corner OF (a real one who can play until "F-Mart" is ready)

The measuring stick for me as to the kind of job Omar does this winter is what happens with Gimps. If it is ST, and he is still here, then I know what Omar is all about....

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I don't know why they wouldn't sign K-Rod except that it makes too much sense. I though the new field was going to give them the license to start printing money. I keep hearing about having Wagner's contract on the books, but don't they have some sort of insurance policy on his deal? Also you take a hit for a year payroll wise for a year then after next year it doesn't matter as his contract comes off the books. They will shoot themselves in the foot for years to come (unless there are some other closers on the market that I am not aware of) to save money next year.
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I am ready to blow this whole thing up.

This group had 4 years to get it done.

Wright, Reyes, Beltran, Murphy, Evans, Church, Pelfrey, Santana, Maine, Neise are the names that come to mind with regards to who should stay, and be on the 2009 Mets roster.

The rest are fair game, IMO.

Bullpen
Starting Pitcher
Corner OF (a real one who can play until "F-Mart" is ready)

The measuring stick for me as to the kind of job Omar does this winter is what happens with Gimps. If it is ST, and he is still here, then I know what Omar is all about....
I would agree with that list though I am not sold on Evans. I also agree with the Castillo remark. If he is not gone by the time camp opens the entire offseason is a failure. I don't care how they do it but he needs to be dumped. Trade him for nothing and pick up the entire contract if you have to or contract out someone to take him out, I don't care, he can't be with this club next year.

Also if there is even one article about them thinking about bringing back Alou, Omar needs to be fired on the spot.
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I heard insurance is not paying Wag's contract and Mets are on hook for next year.
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I would agree with that list though I am not sold on Evans. I also agree with the Castillo remark. If he is not gone by the time camp opens the entire offseason is a failure. I don't care how they do it but he needs to be dumped. Trade him for nothing and pick up the entire contract if you have to or contract out someone to take him out, I don't care, he can't be with this club next year.

Also if there is even one article about them thinking about bringing back Alou, Omar needs to be fired on the spot.
Losing Gimps would at least show the fans that they accept their mistakes and move forward (much like I am hoping what the Knicks do with Crapbury).

I can already hear Alou saying that he is "healthy", and wants to play one more year... and Omar buying in hook, line and sinker.
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Seriously, Hilton....I don't post in the Met's forum much but unless you can bring back that bouncin' boob avatar, shut the **** up.
I'm not one to evaluate my own thread but nobody else has a problem besides yourself. I will take your "bouncin boob" suggestion into consideration though

The Mets roster better consist of Wright, Reyes, Beltran, Delgado, Church, Santana, Pelfrey, Maine and Joe Smith. I wouldn't mind resigning Perez and Ayala if it doesn't prevent them from signing a free agent (ie K-Rod). The Mets really need to restruct their bullpen. As I said before, I would bring back Smith and Ayala, everyone else should be moved. I don't want to see Schoeneweiss, Feliciano, Stokes or Castillo on this team next year.

As for this season. It's not over till it's over but I'm so burnt out, I'm not sure if I can handle another evening of screaming at the TV.
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