Led, the Revenge

I like how people point to the record before the Willie firing and subsequent improved play as though we should be feeling lucky and they were playing above their heads. Manuel got them playing how they SHOULD have been playing, that was what should have been expected from a team with this salary and core of Wright, Reyes, Beltran and Santana all season long. The fact that they have fallen back into losing baseball for the month of September is what makes it a collapse, not how far they had got in the division record. It's not like they're playing decent baseball and just being nudged out by a rival. They've played like walking turds against genuinely losing teams.

They're what should be a good team playing like complete crap down the stretch. Again. That's a collapse. Again.

This is pretty much all on Minaya. Again.

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ultramet

That's what happens when you have a an okay bullpen and a "lights out" closer. 4 out 6 of the Mets losses to the Braves were heavily influenced by bullpen failures. In a pennant race, when the bullpen is called on almost everyday, these failures will be magnified. As you know, our bullpen SUCKS!!!

Okay, let me join the media bandwagon and say, "OMG!!, THIS IS A COLLAPSE...I DIDN'T SEE THIS COMING!!"" Does this make things any better. Hardly.

As for ****ing the 2009 Mets, well let me see what Omar does to address bullpen woes, the loss of starting pitching, and lack of production from the bottom of the Mets lineup. If these things are not seriously addressed in the offseason (and I don't mean signing some latino ballplayer who is the cousin of the godfather of some friend of another friend that Omar played winter ball with in the Dominican Republic (N.B. I;m part hispanic), then will I join you in saying **** THE 2009 METS!!!

No.1

Nah. Can't be on Omar....he's getting that 4 year deal. He's doing a great job!

ultramet

All of these points are quite valid. However Led, how do you expect a team with such a putrid bullpen not to "break" during a pennant race. If you haven't seem their games lately, part of the reason that the Brewers are winning is that heir bullpen has finally gotten over their slump (except Mota). Many of the pirates games were close--until the offense finally broke it open late and won it. As for our offense, our guys are definitely pressing and part of the reason for this is that NO LEAD is too much or ever safe for this pitching staff/bullpen. As a position player this has to wear on you. We are losing because this team was defective from the get go, and YES THIS IS ALL ON OMAR!! The contract extension is un"fu(king believable!!!

No.1

That's the thing. My comment wasn't towards you. It's to those who are already making excuses not just for this team, but for this resigning. "Omar's not so bad", "The team has improved", etc. Instead of people getting ****ing pissed, not upset...not angry, ****ing pissed at this team for failing to making the postseason again, people are making excuses, accepting the possibility of no accountability, and moving forward like this is a good season.

Sports Doctor

No one is making excuses, but not a collapse. If calling it a collapse lets you sleep at night, fine.

TheeSublimeOne

I think the thing that gets to me the most is that up until last night, all the Mets had to do was WIN to stave off the Brewers. Now they have to rely on other teams to beat the Brewers and hope that they can beat the Marlins in these final two games.

This month, had the Mets played with HALF the intensity and fire that the ELIMINATED Florida Marlins had for last night's game, they'd have clinched by now. Anyone who can possibly blame that on the fans should have all their writing credentials torn down with Shea on Monday.

swataz

We probably wouldn't be this bitter if they hadn't so spectacularly crashed and burned last year, let's face it.

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Bay Ridge Dave

I call it "the Mets failing to make postseason for the second year in a row when so much was expected"... that, IMO, is grounds for a GM to get sh!tcanned.

All I am saying is if ain't Omar, it ain't Jerry, so it must be the players. If that is the case, I want to see things done about it this winter.

bornredhead2

Exactly. The only difference between this year and last year is the size of the lead they choked up. For the second year in a row, there's been no intensity, no desire and no intestinal fortitude when they needed it most. When you consider that the majority of these bastards were part of last year's debacle, they had all the incentive needed to do whatever it took to grab the division and not let go. The fact they didn't makes this year worse IMO.

Here's what I want to happen tomorrow: this bunch of losers should be booed all game long and when the past Mets come out to honor Shea, they should be wildly cheered. And these current ****ers should be nowhere to be seen for the ceremony. They don't deserve to stand on the same field with the likes of past Mets who gave their all. And Shea doesn't deserve to close with them around.

Led, the Revenge

When Piazza was on SNY last night, I wasn't aware of a single thing the Mets did on the field.

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