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Old 09-24-2008, 02:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default If the Mets get in, Wright should be MVP.

Say what you want about him being unclutch but the guy has superior all around numbers to ALL players on the teams still in contention. True, he leads in only one offensive category but he's in the top five to ten in many.

Total Bases: first with 328.

Hits: second with 183

RBI: second with 124

Runs: second with 113

Sac Flys: second with 10.

Extra Base Hits: 3rd with 77.

Doubles: fifth with 42

Walks: fifth with 90.

OBP: 7th at .387

OPS: 7th at .925

Home runs: 9th with 33.

SLG: 9th at .538

Average: 11th at .300

Sure, Howard leads in HR and RBI but doesn't lead Wright in any other category except for, of course, strikeouts.

I know Keith was saying that David would only win it if they won the division but, so long as they get it, I don't see what difference it would make.
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While I don't agree with the ripping he gets these days, I think the RISP issue is too big an albatross to be overcome for the MVP.

Even in a "down year" those numbers are fanatastic for what is still a young player, and I still can't believe people want to trade him.
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Home runs: 9th with 33.

Average: 11th at .300
Those two stats are why he won't win MVP.

Despite that - he is the best homegrown everyday player the Mets have ever produced. He should shatter most of the Met records by the time his contract is up.
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While I don't agree with the ripping he gets these days, I think the RISP issue is too big an albatross to be overcome for the MVP.

Even in a "down year" those numbers are fanatastic for what is still a young player, and I still can't believe people want to trade him.
True, but the only other player that I can think of worthy of consideration is Howard. I would think that a .248 overall average with 195 K's looks worse than Wright's numbers WRISP.
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Those two stats are why he won't win MVP.

Despite that - he is the best homegrown everyday player the Mets have ever produced. He should shatter most of the Met records by the time his contract is up.
But again, he's the only player of all candidates( assuming you're not including Pujols) who ranks in almost all categories. Rollins didn't even sniff the top ten last year in BA, HR and RBI and won it.

There just aren't that many players who are in the running, IMO. If not David, then who? It would be a disgrace if Howard were to get it given the average and K's.
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True, but the only other player that I can think of worthy of consideration is Howard. I would think that a .248 overall average with 195 K's looks worse than Wright's numbers WRISP.
I can see your point, but voters look at either perceived clutch ability (see Rollins last season), or how shiney a players bat is, hence Howard being considered.

Were his team in contention, the winner should be the fart sniffer Pujols. Have you seen his OPS? The only other player within 93 points is Chipper, and he's not healthy enough to be considered. His clutch numbers are obscene in every situation -

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All that playing hurt too. He's an arrogant jackass, but he's still the best hitter in the game.
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A big factor in the MVP run is the final push.....Howard tops Wright there. The guy has 27 RBIs this month alone.

He's putting up just stupid Sept #s - .347 BA, .840 SLG



Now that said...if by some miracle the Phils go all Met 2007 on us down the stretch here and the Mets actually take the division...then I think Wright had a shot....but right now its Howard
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A big factor in the MVP run is the final push.....Howard tops Wright there. The guy has 27 RBIs this month alone.

He's putting up just stupid Sept #s - .347 BA, .840 SLG



Now that said...if by some miracle the Phils go all Met 2007 on us down the stretch here and the Mets actually take the division...then I think Wright had a shot....but right now its Howard
Yeah, but that begs the question where would his team be if he wasn't hitting .220 for most of the season. They'd be far ahead right now except that he was costing them games. Plus, he benefits when his team can actually close the game out with a win, making his clutch RBI's a factor. Take Wright, OTOH, who had two home runs two Sunday's ago and one this past Sunday, both of which put his tean in position to win until the bullpen blew the games.

Still, if both teams make the playoffs I think it should be Wright.
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Say what you want about him being unclutch but the guy has superior all around numbers to ALL players on the teams still in contention. True, he leads in only one offensive category but he's in the top five to ten in many.

Total Bases: first with 328.

Hits: second with 183

RBI: second with 124

Runs: second with 113

Sac Flys: second with 10.

Extra Base Hits: 3rd with 77.

Doubles: fifth with 42

Walks: fifth with 90.

OBP: 7th at .387

OPS: 7th at .925

Home runs: 9th with 33.

SLG: 9th at .538

Average: 11th at .300

Sure, Howard leads in HR and RBI but doesn't lead Wright in any other category except for, of course, strikeouts.

I know Keith was saying that David would only win it if they won the division but, so long as they get it, I don't see what difference it would make.


Not enough SACs for wright to win MVP unless he gets a few more the final 5 games.
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Yeah, but that begs the question where would his team be if he wasn't hitting .220 for most of the season. They'd be far ahead right now except that he was costing them games. Plus, he benefits when his team can actually close the game out with a win, making his clutch RBI's a factor. Take Wright, OTOH, who had two home runs two Sunday's ago and one this past Sunday, both of which put his tean in position to win until the bullpen blew the games.

Still, if both teams make the playoffs I think it should be Wright.
Forget the average....its low because the guy is hitting .200 when no one is on. The instant someone gets on he's a .300 hitter...and as the situation gets bigger so does his numbers.

Even back when he was hitting .220 he wasnt costing them games....he was winning games for them. He's got 140 RBIs despite hitting .230 going into Sept. He was always clutch....its just now he's taken it to a whole new level.


Plus you have to look at the lineups. Utley is the only other guy with 100 RBIs and he's been invisible since the all-star break (31 RBIs compared to Howards 27 in Sept alone)....and he hits infront of Howard.

Meanwhile with Wright you've got Beltran and Delgado hitting behind him....both around 110 RBIs....and the NL hit leader in Reyes ahead of him. More RBI chances...more protection behind him....and more guys to steal votes.

Believe me I know Wright is the better overall player, but when it comes to meaning more to the team they are on....its been Howard this year. Delgado and Beltran have carried this team down the stretch as much as Wright has. For the Phils its all been on Howard.

Right now its Howard 1, Wright 2. If they flip spots in the division, then I think it will change...but till then even with how much I hate Philly and Howard I can't go that route.
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I can see your point, but voters look at either perceived clutch ability (see Rollins last season), or how shiney a players bat is, hence Howard being considered.

Were his team in contention, the winner should be the fart sniffer Pujols. Have you seen his OPS? The only other player within 93 points is Chipper, and he's not healthy enough to be considered. His clutch numbers are obscene in every situation -

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All that playing hurt too. He's an arrogant jackass, but he's still the best hitter in the game.
Out of his 511 ABs, 509 were as a right handed batter. 2 times he batted lefty and got a hit and a walk!! pretty impressive and MVP material right there!!
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in any real definition ofp MVP, Delgado deserves the award more than Wright,
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Every year it seems the Mets have a shot at an MVP, they either suck, or have more than one guy under consideration, which splits votes among the writers.

I'd bet on the first Mets no-hitter sooner than an MVP award.
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If we're going for team MVP, I would think that honor should go to Delgado or Santana before Wright.

Overall, I don't care that the Cards are not making the postseason and that he's a giant dick...Pujols and his monster #'s deserve the award.
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Has he won more games than Delgado in the 2nd half? I doubt it. He's had way too many "Wow, what's up with David Wright?" moments in this half to be able to take down Ryan Howard, who literally would win one game after another with his bat and help his team overtake David's Mets.
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