Minors Report 4/7 (Pelfrey)

SI Metman · 04-08-2007, 01:17 AM

Mike Pelfrey was shaky in his 'final start of Spring Training.' He was in line for the win, but Eric Brown coughed up the tying runs in the 8th. Sean Henry hit a solo shot in the bottom half though to give St Lucie a 7-6 win over Vero Beach.

Emmanuel Garcia 2-4, 2B RBI SB (1)
Jose Castro 1-4, RBI
Dustin Martin 2-5, 3B 2 RBI
Nick Evans 0-2, RBI
Daniel Murphy 2-3, 3B
Josh Petersen 2-4, 2B RBI
Sean Henry 1-2, HR (1)

Mike Pelfrey 6 IP 5 H 3 R 2 ER 3 BB 2 K 2 HBP
Eric Brown 2.1 IP 4 H 3 ER 1 BB 2 K Win (1-0)
Kevin Tomasiewicz .2 IP 0 H 0 ER 0 BB 2 K Save (1)

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SI Metman · 04-08-2007, 01:19 AM

Savannah lost to Asheville, 9-1.

Greg Veloz 1-3
Francisco Pena 1-4
Brahiam Maldonado 1-4
Jonathan Sanchez 1-4, 2B RBI

Timothy Stronach 3 IP 6 H 7 R 4 ER 2 BB 3 K Loss (0-1)
Jeremy Mizell 4 IP 1 H 0 ER 2 BB 6 K
Jonathan Castillo 2 IP 2 H 2 R 0 ER 1 BB 3 K

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New Orleans and Binghamton were both snowed out. The Zephyrs will play an Easter Sunday twinbill with Park and Sosa going. Binghamton will try and start their season on Monday in Erie.

Bay Ridge Dave · 04-08-2007, 01:28 AM

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The Zephyrs will play an Easter Sunday twinbill with Park and Sosa going.

I really feel for Zephyrs fans.

15 Day DL Alou · 04-08-2007, 09:30 AM

perhaps it is paranoia, but I simply do not believe Mike Pelfrey is ready to pitch in the majors, I am getting the uneasy feeling he will be a major setback.

Kid A · 04-08-2007, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 15 Day DL Alou

perhaps it is paranoia, but I simply do not believe Mike Pelfrey is ready to pitch in the majors, I am getting the uneasy feeling he will be a major setback.

Unfortunately, I have to agree.

I guess its wait and see how he does, I wonder how many starts he will get once he is here if he is struggling.

mets84 · 04-08-2007, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 15 Day DL Alou

perhaps it is paranoia, but I simply do not believe Mike Pelfrey is ready to pitch in the majors, I am getting the uneasy feeling he will be a major setback.

hopefully last night his focus was already on next friday. which would be a problem in itself, but not one as bad as "he has no control and can't get single-A hitters out."

I wouldn't underestimate how eager this kid is to pitch regularly in the bigs and how much he wanted to be with what he sees as his team during its fast start, to the point where he just hasn't been there his last couple starts. it might still mean he's not ready to pitch in the majors, but it seems like it'd be a "better" problem than if he succeeded through smoke and mirrors throughout most of spring training and is now beginning to become completely unglued.

mets84 · 04-08-2007, 11:15 AM

according to pelfrey:

"I threw a lot more changeups and I threw a lot more sliders than I usually would," Pelfrey told the Port St. Lucie News. "I'm just trying to get a feel for it and work to execute pitches. It was good actually getting into it. Here it's a lot different. Guys are swinging away. It's kind of hard. ... It felt like it's really been a while since I've been out there. It took me a little while to find my rhythm and get back into it, but overall I felt good."

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...r_start-1.html

Green Must Go · 04-08-2007, 11:33 AM

I don't have a good feeling about Pelfrey. On the flip side, all the other Mets starters a performing well.

Bay Ridge Dave · 04-08-2007, 11:56 AM

It already strikes me that if Pelfrey isn't 1984 Dr. K right off the bat, he is going to be buried here. How about giving him a few starts? Seems fair....

Bay Ridge Dave · 04-08-2007, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Kid A

Unfortunately, I have to agree.

I guess its wait and see how he does, I wonder how many starts he will get once he is here if he is struggling.

IMO, he'd have to be getting lit up every start for them to even consider the garbage alternatives.

NYRomy · 04-08-2007, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kid A

Unfortunately, I have to agree.

I guess its wait and see how he does, I wonder how many starts he will get once he is here if he is struggling.

6 innings pitched and 2 earned runs makes you guys uneasy? Christ. If he can pitch to the tune of a 3.00 ERA all season I'll consider that a massive success. I'm beginning to think Dave is right. This kid isn't going to be given a fair shake unless he is lights out. A bit reminiscent of Lastings Milledge circa 2006.l

FrankStylV7 · 04-08-2007, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by NYRomy

6 innings pitched and 2 earned runs makes you guys uneasy? Christ. If he can pitch to the tune of a 3.00 ERA all season I'll consider that a massive success. I'm beginning to think Dave is right. This kid isn't going to be given a fair shake unless he is lights out. A bit reminiscent of Lastings Milledge circa 2006.l

Pelfrey doesn't hit on pre-teens so he's ok in MY book!

thetimidmango · 04-08-2007, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by NYRomy

6 innings pitched and 2 earned runs makes you guys uneasy? Christ. If he can pitch to the tune of a 3.00 ERA all season I'll consider that a massive success. I'm beginning to think Dave is right. This kid isn't going to be given a fair shake unless he is lights out. A bit reminiscent of Lastings Milledge circa 2006.l

I don't see how pitching to a 3.00 ERA in high-A ball is equivalent to pitching to a 3.00 ERA in the majors. If Pelfrey's major league ready, he should be able to shut down a high-A lineup; instead he gave up more than 1.5 baserunners per inning.

15 Day DL Alou · 04-08-2007, 01:14 PM

the lack of control, the lack of K's and the being hit is what is scary.

Not expecting 1984 Dwight Gooden, I just do not think this kid has enough under his belt, they are asking him to develop a new breaking ball and off speed pitches at the major league level when his fastball appears to lack movement.

NickPapagiorgio · 04-08-2007, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by thetimidmango

I don't see how pitching to a 3.00 ERA in high-A ball is equivalent to pitching to a 3.00 ERA in the majors. If Pelfrey's major league ready, he should be able to shut down a high-A lineup; instead he gave up more than 1.5 baserunners per inning.

Don't let the facts get in the way of a rant...

I think he will get a fair shake. It isn't that he needs to be lights out but I think it is bad for Pelfrey to stay up in the bigs if he isn't at least a solid starter. Nothing is going to be gained by him from getting smacked around on the big league level. We can't afford for him to get his confidence shaken by not performing well as a big leaguer (see Floyd, Gavin). The team, and Pelfrey, would be better served then to let him get some seasoning in the minors. Just my two cents.

04-08-2007, 01:17 AM	#1 (permalink)
SI Metman Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: JET FAVRE!! Posts: 4,630	Minors Report 4/7 (Pelfrey) Mike Pelfrey was shaky in his 'final start of Spring Training.' He was in line for the win, but Eric Brown coughed up the tying runs in the 8th. Sean Henry hit a solo shot in the bottom half though to give St Lucie a 7-6 win over Vero Beach. Emmanuel Garcia 2-4, 2B RBI SB (1) Jose Castro 1-4, RBI Dustin Martin 2-5, 3B 2 RBI Nick Evans 0-2, RBI Daniel Murphy 2-3, 3B Josh Petersen 2-4, 2B RBI Sean Henry 1-2, HR (1) Mike Pelfrey 6 IP 5 H 3 R 2 ER 3 BB 2 K 2 HBP Eric Brown 2.1 IP 4 H 3 ER 1 BB 2 K Win (1-0) Kevin Tomasiewicz .2 IP 0 H 0 ER 0 BB 2 K Save (1) box

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04-08-2007, 01:19 AM	#2 (permalink)
SI Metman Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: JET FAVRE!! Posts: 4,630	Savannah lost to Asheville, 9-1. Greg Veloz 1-3 Francisco Pena 1-4 Brahiam Maldonado 1-4 Jonathan Sanchez 1-4, 2B RBI Timothy Stronach 3 IP 6 H 7 R 4 ER 2 BB 3 K Loss (0-1) Jeremy Mizell 4 IP 1 H 0 ER 2 BB 6 K Jonathan Castillo 2 IP 2 H 2 R 0 ER 1 BB 3 K box New Orleans and Binghamton were both snowed out. The Zephyrs will play an Easter Sunday twinbill with Park and Sosa going. Binghamton will try and start their season on Monday in Erie.

04-08-2007, 09:30 AM	#4 (permalink)
15 Day DL Alou Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 2016 Posts: 6,026	perhaps it is paranoia, but I simply do not believe Mike Pelfrey is ready to pitch in the majors, I am getting the uneasy feeling he will be a major setback.

04-08-2007, 11:15 AM	#7 (permalink)
mets84 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Down by 11 in the 9th inning Posts: 9,885	according to pelfrey: "I threw a lot more changeups and I threw a lot more sliders than I usually would," Pelfrey told the Port St. Lucie News. "I'm just trying to get a feel for it and work to execute pitches. It was good actually getting into it. Here it's a lot different. Guys are swinging away. It's kind of hard. ... It felt like it's really been a while since I've been out there. It took me a little while to find my rhythm and get back into it, but overall I felt good." http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...r_start-1.html

04-08-2007, 11:33 AM	#8 (permalink)
Green Must Go Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Obama has his eye on your wallet Posts: 11,993	I don't have a good feeling about Pelfrey. On the flip side, all the other Mets starters a performing well.

04-08-2007, 11:56 AM	#9 (permalink)
Bay Ridge Dave Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Day-o, Day-ay-ay-o Posts: 12,605	It already strikes me that if Pelfrey isn't 1984 Dr. K right off the bat, he is going to be buried here. How about giving him a few starts? Seems fair....

04-08-2007, 01:14 PM	#14 (permalink)
15 Day DL Alou Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 2016 Posts: 6,026	the lack of control, the lack of K's and the being hit is what is scary. Not expecting 1984 Dwight Gooden, I just do not think this kid has enough under his belt, they are asking him to develop a new breaking ball and off speed pitches at the major league level when his fastball appears to lack movement.