IrishFF44

FOX Sports on MSN - MLB - Twins pick up free-agent hurler Hernandez

Anybody find it ironic how after all this, we wind up with Santana and the Twins wind up with Livan?

Mule

Oh dear God, please, no.

I just turned off all sports radio here for the next, oh, 3 weeks.

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freakzilla11

Johan Santana is a Met.
Giants won the Superbowl.

Still can't get used to those two statements.

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gregjefferies09

Damn it Omar, where were you on that one?

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Bay Ridge Dave

Someone had to replace Carlos Silva for their annual buffet table contest..

Gregory Gewirtz

Rotoworld.com says the contract is for 1 year / $5 or $7 million. If the Mets could have signed Livan at that price, IMO, it would have been worth layering him atop the current pitching staff. (Cue fat jokes.)

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Bay Ridge Dave

That is about 5 or 7 million too much....

dak11

Absolutely agree. He's a relative bargain at that price.

Mule

Look at it this way, if you divide out his salary by raw poundage of food intake, he's a 50% savings over Carlos Silva.

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I just took a crap and named it muhammed -- METSSC

I know KO foreign policy is a little bit simplistic, but holes where countries ending in "an" were is pretty much the number one tenet. -- KingOlerud

Bay Ridge Dave

The big difference (no joke intended) between Livan and the others (ie Armas Jr.), is that at 1 yr, 7 million, the Mets would all but have to commit to him, even if he does poorly. With the others, if they perform badly, then can simply be sent back down or released... no fuss no muss.

Livan is going to get destroyed in the AL, especially in the dome.

As Dak points out, I think Armas Jr has a fair chance to stick with team in a bulllpen role.

joshuahist

JMO but I think that Livan is all but done. He can't even break glass with his fastball anymore, and his junk is getting more and more hittable every year. Look for this to be his last guaranteed deal.

Gregory Gewirtz

As it stands now, the Mets don't have one guy who's even a tolerable starter for any but here-and-there emergency starts. Pelfrey could develop into that guy this year, and maybe the Mets get lucky with Sosa, Armas, Jason Vargas, or hell, Nelson Figueroa, but if and when El Duque or Pedro goes down, or anyone else, the Mets have a huge void. The ripple effect of adding El Duque to the pen to fortify the pen and/or limit his innings is also a positive.

As is shown every year, a team's sixth and seventh starters can get a decent amount of work. Blending Livan into the mix, who is still a reasonable starter at the back end of the rotation, who as recently as two seasons ago pitched 250 innings at a 4 ERA, and who has made successful pitching adjustments a few times in his career already, would give the Mets' rotation a huge (literally and figuratively) insurance policy.

All that said, if the Mets can get Lohse for 1 year/$4M or if they can sign Colon, Freddy Garcia, or even David Wells to NRIs or something close, I'm all for it.

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