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Baseball Digest Daily :: Swisher Dealt to the White Sox!

The Oakland A’s today traded outfielder Nick Swisher to the Chicago White Sox for left-handed pitcher Gio Gonzalez, right-handed pitcher Fautino De Los Santos and outfielder Ryan Sweeney.

(can't vouch for the validity of the site)

MrHat

Good deal for the A's IMO. Swisher is big time overrated. The guy doesnt hit for a good average, K's a ton, is mediocre defensively....all for a mid-20s HR return.

uphill struggle

i dont know the white sox system. what's the equivalent from the mets?

Shooter Mcgavin

Pelfrey/Mulvey

It's going to be interesting to see how the White Sox try to fit these pieces together. If they're willing to use Swisher in center field, they're improving their lineup immensely with the deal, though it's at a steep cost in the team's top two pitching prospects and the still promising Sweeney. If they're doing it with the idea of using Swisher in left field, leaving no room for Carlos Quentin, then the deal could prove to be a major bust. We're guessing they'll pencil him into center for now but continue to look for alternatives. Either way, Swisher gets a nice upgrade in fantasy value with the switch to the AL's best home run park. He'll be a threat to hit 35-40, especially if the White Sox are smart enough to hit him second. Jan. 3 - 2:31 pm et

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86mets

Well Yahoo confirm it as well..

Oakland deals OF Nick Swisher to White Sox for 3 minor leaguers - MLB - Yahoo! Sports


H. Street and or Blanton may be next....

Swisher although maybe not an elite hitter..slide him in a lineup where he isn't relied on to be the man..(who did he have protecting him ??)like in chicago. He should do well especially in a better hitters park. His slg. is still lower than i thoufght it would be..but the K's don' bother me as much b/c he BB''s alot..obp hanging around .380 last season which isn't bad..

Nick Swisher - Oakland Athletics - Split Statistics - MLB - Yahoo! Sports

Geez..Oak his gonna be god aweful offensively next year..they had no hitting to begin with...who bats cleanup now..Mofo legend SCUTARO ?? lol

Bay Ridge Dave

Mets should be making a play for BOTH Street and Blanton (not crazy about him but fits as 4th starter very nicely) if they become available.

Piney Woods

He had a 35 HR year mixed in with those mid-20s (in a pitchers park)
Also walks 100X/year (.380-ish OBP last year) can play all OF positions + 1B and just turned 27.
That he's not a true CFer and won't hit for a ton of power will likely keep him out of the superstar ranks - but he's still a pretty good player just about to enter his prime years and is signed at a reasonable rates thru 2011.

That said, Oakland got a pretty good haul from what I'm reading; two "B+" 22 y/o pitchers acc to John Sickels (that's a good grade from him) plus an OFer.

MetfanBren

I don't know if there's any comparison now, but Gio Gonzales would probably be Yasimirio Pettite when the Mets dealt him, only left-handed. He's been traded three times already (though twice between the White Sox and Phills), but had some ridiculous numbers in AA last year. Looks like he's been labeled as outperforming his stuff though, and that usually negates a lot of nice stats...

Looking at Sickels' White Sox prospects, they pretty much just gutted the rest of the system for Swisher. They must really believe that the switch in home parks is going to make him a lot better....

Kid A

I'd take Swisher over Church.

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MetfanBren

But would you give up Guerra, Mulvey, and Gomez for him?

Kid A

No way, those guys are all gonna be Twins next year!

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Shastada

Well looks like the A's are planning a Marlin like fire sale/rebuild project. Certainly think they have to be unloading everyone after they've made these two moves. Whats the point in hanging onto anybody? Street and Blanton are cheap and can get good returns, but they still have big money locked up in the form of Chavez and Kotsay I believe. Wonder if they'll attempt to unload those as well.

86mets

Yea...MARLINS WEST...

If beane can't keep a young decent player not making too much $$$ in Swisher..then why bother..Haren was also CHEAP and they dumped him..A's are becoming minor league system for majors too..

Forgot about Chavez.. I guess he becomes only hitter to fear in that lineup and he can't stay ON THE FIELD long enough so nothing to fear there..

As far as Mets giving up a similar pkg to A's to get him..No WAY.. those chips no matter how tarnished need to be used for pitching..the ONLY player I was willing to funnel the farm for was to the Marlins for the TWO players they sent to Tigers in D-Train and Cabrera(NOW THATS A HITTER)

MrHat

35 HR season reaks of fluke to me, but I guess we'll see for sure this year since Chi is a great HR hitters park.....

All I see is a .250 25 hr 80 RBI guy who plays crappy defense at multiple positions and considering the hype around him coming up, he's fallen well short of the perennial all-star possibly superstar status he was hyped to be. Even in his 35 HR season his OPS was all of .865 which is very much middle of the pack when talking about corner OFers or 1B.

Yet that netted 2 very good pitching prospects...one of which that was a key cog for what most people thought was a solid #2 type starter just the year before.

Piney Woods

Like I said, I like the haul Oakland got for him too (or at least potentially since that's all those guys are so far) - but, after just 3 full seasons by age 26, I think it's tough to dismiss any one year as a fluke or chide him for not yet being a perennial All-Star. And, Lewis's assessment in 'Moneyball' aside, Swisher was "just" a mid-1st round draft pick, it's not like he was top 5 in the nation type who came with a 'Guaranteed Stud' stamp on his forehead.
I also think you're degrading his defense too much. As I said above he falls short of being the true ball-hawking CFer that would make him more valuable but he's more than adequate in either corner (IMO) and is fine for fill-in duty as a CF.

It'll take a few years to sort this out since neither pitcher is likely to contribute a whole lot this year and who knows after that. Eventually we'll see how well Billy B. picked his prospects. He hit when he dealt Mulder (Haren & Baric) but swung and missed when dealing Hudson (Dan Meyer, Charles Thomas).