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Old 12-16-2007, 02:29 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I was thinking about how we really seemed to have had a 20 year or so gap between developing good players. That said, we'd make one hell of a team:

Catcher - Grote
1base - Ah, shitballs
2nd Base - Eh, Fonzie
SS - Reyes
3rd Base - Captain Cliche

LF - Preston Wilson
RF - Strawberry
CF - Mookie ('Cuause I met him in the locker room, very nice to me when I was younger. Fan favorite, I am big baby in this regard, I know)

Pitchers:
Seaver
Koosman
Dwhite Powder
Ryan
El Sid

Relievers:
Tug
Izzy
Heilman
Orosco

Not a bad team, man. Imagine that team in its prime. Just for fun, nothing more...

Note: Now, I want to name the more established older time Met outfielders, but I am referring only to homegrown and only the vets on this board can help me with that regard. I started watching in 83 and I am too lazy to check in google if Agee/Clendenon were all homegrowns/trades/etc.

But not a bad team at all. Makes me wish we could build a stronger core to add to Wright/Reyes. Nothing beats having a good team with a nice homegrown core. And it was surprising to see just how much really good talent come from this organization. Also consider what it'd mean if Clemens had signed with us out of High School. Wow...
 

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Old 12-16-2007, 02:57 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I like THIS team...

1B - Kelvin Torve
2B - Jason Hardtke
SS- Kevin Baez
3B - Chris Donnells
C- Steve Chilcott
LF - Shawn Abner
CF - Stan Jefferson
RF - Terry Blocker

RSP - Anthony Young
LSP - ?????
Closer - Jeff Innis
 
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Steve Phillips' secretary is now happy, as he's got wood for hours now...

Is that the Steve Phillips draft montage special? Good Lord what a pile O' dung he and his previous admin of the last 10 years piled onto our heads. Woof. I mean, do we have the world record for most horrible useless ****ing draftees pre 2003?

Al Shirley
Ryan Jzarnock (SP?)
Jason Tyner (First round? Get the **** out of here)
Ricky Otero
Butch Huskey
Aaron Ledesma

Man, I remember in 1993 reading the 'prospect report' and thinking "WOW, Huskey/Ledesma look great! Hey, who is this alfonzo kid? He looks funny"

Dead serious. My scouting career ended that night.
 
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Mike Vail needs to be on this list.
 
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El Sid and Orosco were traded from L.A. and I THINK the White Sox organization (Orosco for Jerry Koosman??)
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El Sid and Orosco were traded from L.A. and I THINK the White Sox organization (Orosco for Jerry Koosman??)
yep and yep but Orosco was from the Twins. Aguilera was a great closer drafted by the Mets. So was Jeff Reardon and Randy Myers
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June 8, 1981: Drafted by the Los Angeles Dodgers in the 3rd round of the 1981 amateur draft. Player signed June 21, 1981.

December 8, 1983: Traded by the Los Angeles Dodgers with Ross Jones to the New York Mets for Carlos Diaz and Bob Bailor.

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January 10, 1978: Drafted by the Minnesota Twins in the 2nd round of the 1978 amateur draft.

February 7, 1979: Sent by the Minnesota Twins to the New York Mets to complete an earlier deal made on December 8, 1978. The Minnesota Twins sent a player to be named later and Greg Field (minors) to the New York Mets for Jerry Koosman. The Minnesota Twins sent Jesse Orosco (February 7, 1979) to the New York Mets to complete the trade.
 
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Jerry Grote was acquired from the Stros for Tom Parsons. Todd Hundley was the best C that was developed in the Mets system.

Amos Otis and Ken Singleton also belong on the All-Star Mets prospect lists.
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Poop. I knew I was off on a few. I tried to pad our stats.
 
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All in all this desperate attempt to assemble an "all home grown team" only emphasizes how shitty this organization has been run for the last...... oh, forever.

The best "prospect" that the Mets ever "developed" was acquired in a special drawing due to the Braves circumventing the existing rules to acquire him.
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Sad but true.
 
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The best "prospect" that the Mets ever "developed" was acquired in a special drawing due to the Braves circumventing the existing rules to acquire him.
That's how we got Gomez?
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When I typed Hundley I said to myself "No way, there has to be another one" and I figured the old guys wanted to see him listed. I worried that a lot of the 69 guys I wanted to mention wouldn't be.

But I forgot about Orosco. I always thought he was a homegrown. And instead of El sid, I thought of guys like Aj Burnett and...and...

What a drag. Last night I thought "Hey, not bad" but today I am back to the old "Jesus Chripes this team can't develop jack ****"
Thank GOD for Reyes/Wright.
 
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While I think its interesting to try to name successful prospects the Mets have brought up through their system (Jon Matlack?), I think this idea that the Mets woes are based solely on their inability to develop a team that consists mostly of home-grown talent is overblown.

Take the '86 Mets. Some of those guys came up through the farm system, but not everyone. Certainly not Carter, Hernandez, or Knight - all critical members of the team. Gooden may have come up through the farm system, but Ojeda, Darling and Fernandez didn't.

The point is that a successful team develops some players and then acquires others from trades and (these days) free agency.

My frustration with the Mets is that they seem to be stuck in the mode where young players aren't getting a chance to play everyday and learn how to be a major leaguer. The Mets aren't a player or two away from a championship. So why not give the young guys a chance to develop?
 
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Tim Leary belongs somewhere on that pitcher prospect list.
 
 
 


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