metman

Source:

Sid Hartman: Vikings' Frazier familiar with Bears rivalry from both sidelines
(found on sons of sam horn)

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The agent for Johan Santana has told the Yankees, Red Sox and other teams interested in Twins star pitcher that the price to sign him is a minimum of seven years at $20 million per year, for a total of $140 million guaranteed.

The pitcher the Twins want from the Red Sox is Clay Buchholz, who went a combined 8-5 with a 2.44 ERA and 171 strikeouts in 125 1/3 innings between Portland and Pawtucket. When called up by the Red Sox, Buchholz no-hit Baltimore in his second big league start and went 3-1 with a 1.59 ERA in four games."

86mets

The $$ doesn't scare me..the years do...but since Zito got it..reasonable to think so should he..but giving up the ENTIRE FARM and then forking over that $$ is not anything deemed unreasonable to have reservations about..

ambler

No way José. If this is the case, we can sign him for similar or equal money for ´09. Ain´t no on e else gwine to sign him for that much B4 then no how.

met income

If $140 doesn't scare you, why would the years? Is 140/6 better? Of course not.

Kid A

If he is not traded and rolls into FA, you give him the 7 years. Much like Pedro after 2004, this is a must.

And if Pedro turns in a good year, his value too will be off the charts if Omar is looking to resign him. Break the bank.

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We're just really, really lousy capitalists...JT

"The only true currency in this bankrupt world... is what you share with someone else when you're uncool."

Seaver41

The years don't scare me, but I agree that giving up the entire farm system and then committing $140 million all for one player should make every GM stop and think. That's a HUGE commitment for a pitcher.

Unless the Twins lower their trade expectations, it might be a better idea to wait them out. They may get more agreeable as the season starts, or the Mets could use their checkbook to acquire the guy as a FA after the season, assuming he's still available. I still think that's the only scenario in which the Mets stand a chance of getting this guy.

uphill struggle

i can't believe people are surprised by this

METSSC

The Mets would be insane to trade the farm for him unless he's 100% signed and even then I'm not so sure I do it. I cant believe this guy isnt going FA. Keep your prospects and break the bank next year.

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GET THE PIECE OF CRAP McGimpy OFF MY TEAM NOW!!!!!

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bornredhead2

He's made it clear he's willing to sign an extension. Why is it so hard to believe he won't go FA? He's set his price. This is it now, this will be the price a year from now. Only now, he hedges his bets against a down year or injury.

And if the Mets don't get him now, they can watch him starting in Yankee Stadium next opening day.

metman

Maybe not. There really are reports that he prefers the Mets and, more importantly, the NL. I don't doubt it, actually.

Sports Doctor

Why is it so hard to beleive he WILL go to FA

TheeSublimeOne

I agree with you here, but I still think that since he does have that no-trade clause, that he'd sign a contract extension with the team that he's traded to because it's a team he voluntarily WANTS to be a part of. That's why I believe the time to get him (and sign him to 7/$140) is now, because I firmly believe that any team who is about to trade top prospects for the BEST pitcher in baseball should and WOULD do anything in their power to keep him in their possesion for the next 8 years.

86mets

Years are not anything to shrug off when pitcher don't NORMALLY get 7 year deals..so when I said $$$ doesn't.. I'm referring to the $$/year..

So 6/120 would be better...one less year committed see?

And the rest of my post said that:but giving up the ENTIRE FARM and then forking over that $$....

Not saying I am totally AGAINST doing it..but its also not a NO-BRAINER as the farm would be RAPED..

And to those that feel we should just wait till he becomes a FA...you'll be waiting till 2015 when he finishes his new contract and is OLD and shot,,then he would be considered a worthwhile investment to Wilpons..Not convinced Freddie is willing to pony up the $$ for Johan with what his demands are now said to be...Johan can say he would like to pitch in NL all he wants..but if/WHEN an AL gives him the 140 mil..thats where he will go...just like they ALL DO..

Kid A

Given the Mets track record with prospects that they sign and draft, I agree. Reyes, Wright, Heilman are the only guys that are the exception. They are never patient enough to give the kids the time they need, A) Because the team has a lot of broken down Vets (Alou, Floyd for 4 years, Pedro, El Duque) B) Media and Fan impatience may wrongly come into play C) They have a really shitty plan, and system.

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We're just really, really lousy capitalists...JT

"The only true currency in this bankrupt world... is what you share with someone else when you're uncool."

knowwhatimsayin?

Santana wants to be a Met. That's the only reason that he hasn't been traded yet. If he actually wanted to go to the Sox or the Yankees, it would have happened already. The holdup is that Minaya believes he is operating from a position of strength, and is holding out to make a deal on his terms....he knows the other teams are no longer factors.

Bottom line, Santana will be a Met, know what I'm sayin?