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Old 11-30-2007, 06:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default OMAR on the FAN Today: His comments on the trade and other issues

Omar on Fan...Key points (not necessarily in order) for those of you who could not tune in.

1. Happy with Church as starting RF for Mets..feels his offensive numbers will improve at Shea since RFK stadium is a large ballpark.
2. Admits that he talked to specific teams with pitchers on the trading block. Despite the trading of Milledge, he was told by these teams that the Mets still might have enough prospects for a trade. (In other words, those other teams had no interest in Milledge)
3. Likes Ryan Church as a base stealer and he will be cheap (financially)
4. Schneider seen as defensive upgrade. Wants to be “strong up the middle”
5. Torrealba is now considering suing the Mets. Minaya not surprised by this but would not elaborate on reason why an agreement could be reached (the question was raised by M & MD was this related to the “Mitchell Report”???).
6. Defense was reason LoDuca was not re-signed (BS excuse….Mad Dog tried to get him to admit it was his off the field comments).
7. Feels like the Schneider’s defense is more important that LoDuca’s offense. (More BS—This team struggled in a major way to score runs last year)
8. Despite the Yanks big offseason moves, doesn’t feel that there is a need to be pressured into a pitching upgrade or major move (More BS)-HAPPY WITH CORE OF METS TEAM!!!!??????????
9. FEELS LIKE WE HAVE ENOUGH PITCHING AS IS !!!??????????????
10. Admits that he will try to add other pieces to these teams.
11. States that Church/Schneider trade may turn out to be another Benson for Maine (delusional)
12. Russo stated that it would have been hard to believe a year ago that Milledge would be traded for 2 journeymen players you’d be crazy. Minaya stated that he feels these players are not “journeymen” (denial).
13. Reyes is going nowhere-Despite his late season decline. (Probably true.)
14. Talked to Wagner about his comments. Told Wagner what the Mets' new plan was for '0& and states Wagner was pleased. Told Wagner that he has to be careful about what he says in the NY Media.
 

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If you continually have to sell the public that the moves you make are the right one, then you are obviously not making the right moves. The team is actually worse off than last year. Good job Omar, you lost my faith.
 
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I don't normally agree with Fat Mike, but I think the Mets should try Heilman in the rotation next year. Maybe move Pelfry to the bullpen as a set-up guy, which might might be his best postion at this point
 
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Honestly, what do you want him to say? Show his hand by screaming that he needs a pitcher?

Some people need to get lives and stop worrying about what this man is thinking 24-7.
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If you continually have to sell the public that the moves you make are the right one, then you are obviously not making the right moves. The team is actually worse off than last year. Good job Omar, you lost my faith.
As well as the Phillies getting better.
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I don't normally agree with Fat Mike, but I think the Mets should try Heilman in the rotation next year. Maybe move Pelfry to the bullpen as a set-up guy, which might might be his best postion at this point

I'm glad Fat mike has seen the light.
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Omar on Fan...Key points (not necessarily in order) for those of you who could not tune in.

8. Despite the Yanks big offseason moves, doesn’t feel that there is a need to be pressured into a pitching upgrade or major move (More BS)-HAPPY WITH CORE OF METS TEAM!!!!??????????
Um Skankees just resigned their own players that didnt win anything last year. What big off season moves did they make to improve themselves? See this is the Skankee propaganda machine in full motion. No matter what they do or what young propect they have people think they are great and no matter what prospect Mets have they stink. Milledge is right now is already as good as Milkey and yet Skanks want to trade Milkey for Santana and Mets can only get Church for Milledge. Hell I could argue that without Petite Skanks are WORSE than last year.
 
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Um Skankees just resigned their own players that didnt win anything last year. What big off season moves did they make to improve themselves? See this is the Skankee propaganda machine in full motion. No matter what they do or what young propect they have people think they are great and no matter what prospect Mets have they stink. Milledge is right now is already as good as Milkey and yet Skanks want to trade Milkey for Santana and Mets can only get Church for Milledge. Hell I could argue that without Petite Skanks are WORSE than last year.
The skanks were the hottest team in baseball at the end of the year the Mets were just about the worst. So if they both still have the same teams you can figure out the rest.
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Um Skankees just resigned their own players that didnt win anything last year. What big off season moves did they make to improve themselves? See this is the Skankee propaganda machine in full motion. No matter what they do or what young propect they have people think they are great and no matter what prospect Mets have they stink. Milledge is right now is already as good as Milkey and yet Skanks want to trade Milkey for Santana and Mets can only get Church for Milledge. Hell I could argue that without Petite Skanks are WORSE than last year.
No...losing AROD, Posada, and Mariano would have made the Yanks worse. The fact that they signed these guys and have a former manager of the year as their new skipper is big news and means that they probably will be quite good. Somehow the signings of Easley, Anderson and the trades for Estrada, Church, and Schneider don't seem to have the same implications in terms of success.

Bottom line is that Omar must make a big move in Nashville---Not for the New York Media's sake--but to make this team finally really better after an epic collapse.

If you actually heard the tone of this interview, it was clearly evident that Omar was really trying to justify this trade, justify not re-signing LoDuca, and justify his current lack of success in not landing a quality SP. For the first time, the interview seemed more about excuses and left me with the impression that don't be surprised if the Mets don't get anything major accomplished in Nashville. (This is quite a different feeling from the cocky Omar last year who seemed confident that Zito would be a Met-even if that didn't come to fruition, Omar seemed to convey a sense of condfidence in his actions. No doubt he was burned last year. `
 
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Church might be an improvement over Milledge. Milledge may improve but a players defense is usually consistant if he can'r field at 20 he can't field at 35 either. Milledge was a scary outfielder. Schneider can't hurt us much although if it were up to me we would still have LoDuca. IF Castillo and Alou can stay healthy and Delgado fully heal from his injuries we might not be that bad a team. We need pitching, still.
 
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7. Feels like the Schneider’s defense is more important that LoDuca’s offense. (More BS—This team struggled in a major way to score runs last year)
I'd actually have to agree with him. Lo Duca was a singles hitter who was terrible with RISP this past season. He may have been great in '06 but that season was well above his norm. Not to mention the fact that A LOT of the games the Mets blew down the stretch I remember them scoring 5 runs or more and the pitching still coughed it up.
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If you actually heard the tone of this interview, it was clearly evident that Omar was really trying to justify this trade, justify not re-signing LoDuca, and justify his current lack of success in not landing a quality SP. For the first time, the interview seemed more about excuses and left me with the impression that don't be surprised if the Mets don't get anything major accomplished in Nashville. (This is quite a different feeling from the cocky Omar last year who seemed confident that Zito would be a Met-even if that didn't come to fruition, Omar seemed to convey a sense of condfidence in his actions. No doubt he was burned last year.
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He's proving that he's been more lucky than good.

The problem with "luck" is that it ends up averaging out to a person's real ability....
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I am really amazed people are that upset by this trade. Milledge, albeit without getting much of a chance, has proven NOTHING.

Are Schneider and Church journeymen? Not by my definition. I think Schneider is an upgrade over Estrada defensively. Church is cheap... and so is Schneider, relatively.

Basically you just picked up two servicable ML players for a glorified prospect.
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I am really amazed people are that upset by this trade. Milledge, albeit without getting much of a chance, has proven NOTHING.

Are Schneider and Church journeymen? Not by my definition. I think Schneider is an upgrade over Estrada defensively. Church is cheap... and so is Schneider, relatively.

Basically you just picked up two servicable ML players for a glorified prospect.
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