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Old 11-29-2007, 02:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Suppose the EXPERTS are right...(discuss SP)

the Mets don't have the pieces to acquire a front line SP. Play GM...what's your plan?

Here's one...

Sign Bartolo Colon and Freddy Garcia both and trade for Prior if the price is right. Quantity over quality.

Sign Colon to a short term deal. He was descent the last couple weeks of the season. If he hold up until late June...Garcia is back.

Sign Garcia to a deal that will pay him base + invectives. He's back in July.

Trade for Prior. It's a risk but he'll be less costly then Santana and the rest of the usual suspects on the trade block that the Mets supposedly don't have the chips to get. Prior is scheduled to return in April. With some hard work he's still a better option then everyone on the free agent list.

If just one of these guys regains form they can win.
It's a short term solution but the farm stays for the most part intact until the trade deadline.

It's not as if the Mets are playing in the AL. The NL East stinks in spite of the Braves and Phillies marginal improvements. The Bullpen is still the major issue.
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Well, that was the basis for the Mets supposing to run away with the division last year.

Garcia and Pryor? Yes.

Colon? No. chronic bad back + fat f*ck = DL.... What good is a short term deal if he can't stay on the mound?

The other two or at least recovering from injuries, so hope can be had there. Pryor definitely worth a look, and IMO, should cost a couple of low level prospects (much like the Castillo trade).

If nothing else happens, I would trade for Pryor, and sign Garcia. At worst, it won't force the Mets to have Humber in the rotation, and Garcia gives them added depth for the stretch run (if there is one). Omar really should stay away from all the fat, old, and injured guys.

That said, I really, really hope I am wrong, but I get the sense that sometime next Friday, Omar will be saying, "I got nothing..."

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Well, that was the basis for the Mets supposing to run away with the division last year.
Turned out they stunk, too.
 
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Well, that was the basis for the Mets supposing to run away with the division last year.
Right... now what's your solution?

By the way is that the old guy from Benny Hill on your Avatar?
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Turned out they stunk, too.
Right... now what's your solution?
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Right... now what's your solution?

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The majority seem to feel that even though the Mets prospects are not good enough to make our rotation or starting line up, we should be able to trade them one for one with a reliable front line starter, scratch that, an Ace (Santana), because the other teams GM's are all met fans and they of course would help us out.
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i added more to my post...
I saw. I like it.

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You better run along Rain Man, your gonna miss Wapner. The throw some sh** up against the wall method doesn't usually work. Your scenario is absolute worst case. I guarantee you that there are pitchers out there other than Santana, Bedard, Haren, Blanton (and some those guys are probably not REALLY available). After the Winter Meetings we'll have a clear picture.
 
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The majority seem to feel that even though the Mets prospects are not good enough to make our rotation or starting line up, we should be able to trade them one for one with a reliable front line starter, scratch that, an Ace (Santana), because the other teams GM's are all met fans and they of course would help us out.
Right... now what's your solution?
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Omar is 100% spot on with this observation:

METS’ OFFER FALLS SHORT

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I have two 15-game winners (John Maine, Oliver Perez) that other teams gave up on," Minaya said. “If young guys have high-end arms and good deliveries, you have to ignore the stats on occasion. Pitching goes up and down. (Matt) Garza took a step back this year in some people's eyes, and Tampa just traded for him (as part of the Young trade)."
So most of the same people who are undervaluing the Met prospects were doing the same thing with Maine and Perez two years ago. The experts don't look so good on those two right now, but they clearly know how value better than the Mets, right?
 
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You better run along Rain Man, your gonna miss Wapner. The throw some sh** up against the wall method doesn't usually work. Your scenario is absolute worst case. I guarantee you that there are pitchers out there other than Santana, Bedard, Haren, Blanton (and some those guys are probably not REALLY available). After the Winter Meetings we'll have a clear picture.
Well I think it was supposed to be. At least, I understood it to be that.
 
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No, Omar! Catching is the biggest problem right now. Catching!
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You better run along Rain Man, your gonna miss Wapner. The throw some sh** up against the wall method doesn't usually work. Your scenario is absolute worst case. I guarantee you that there are pitchers out there other than Santana, Bedard, Haren, Blanton (and some those guys are probably not REALLY available). After the Winter Meetings we'll have a clear picture.
20 minutes to Wappner! K-Mart sucks! and unlike La Russa I'm a a really good driver.

20 years in the insurance business and you start to look at worst case scenario as the norm.

Play the GM Shooter. What the alternative?
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