86mets

...UNLESS they develop one themselves..

REASON :

NJ.com: Everything Jersey

A person connected with the Santana talks, who declined to be identified because he is not authorized to speak for the decision-makers, said the Mets were not likely to be a serious suitor for Santana. Not only do the Mets lag behind other contenders in the quality of the pitching prospects they have to offer, but the person said he was told that Mets ownership would not authorize a contract of more than five years for any pitcher -- even Santana.
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So.. if true.. those who were of the mindset that Mets should NOT TRADE the farm for Johan, but just wait till he is a FA and throw $$ at him....Guess what...Mets would have NO SHOT EITHER based on last line....

With pitching...STUD pitching so rare...the market DICTATES you are gonna have to give LONGER term deals..

If you are not going to go more than FIVE YEARS for best pitchers in MLB, when EVERYONE else who CAN AFFORD WILL...then I guess Mets will never HAVE an ACE unless they develop one thru DRAFT or develop minors enough to have a stable of Joba's to get a team even INTERESTED in our prospects to trade for one...

No.1

"A person connected with the Santana talks, who declined to be identified because he is not authorized to speak for the decision-makers"

I'm convinced...

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freakzilla11

Might as well jump off the bridge now and save yourself the trouble later.

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metman

Right, I'm sure this source does NOT exist and that Wilpon is BEGGING to give a pitcher 7 years. This sounds NOTHING like the team that I know, that always does it's best to win at all costs.

I'm sure the journalist made this up in his bathtub. There is never such a thing as a source that wants to protect their identity.

No.1

Well, from what I heard according to a person connected with your life, who declined to be identified because he is not authorized to speak for your decision-making says you don't really believe what you post...

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metman

That's cute and all, but in the real world, these guys all play this game for a reason. The Mets are likely full aware of this being reported, as is Horowitz. I'm sure he'd even prefer it to go out this way, so as to not make it too official, but at the same time let us down easily.

The Haren reports are all we need to know that we've moved on. But we knew this would happen. Freddy Coupons won't draft over slot, he won't draft the high impact arms and he won't pay what it takes since he blew his load in 2005 (which he had no choice to do, by the way)

He's also the same guy that didn't fight for Piazza (doubleday did)

He's such a ****ing loser. There is no reason for this fan of 25 years to think otherwise. It's how it works. If a guy really did make up sources he'd damage the rep and ad revenue of his paper and would be out on his ass. It's real. The actions will show this.

No.1

You can believe that "A person connected with the Santana talks, who declined to be identified because he is not authorized to speak for the decision-makers" all you want. All "he's" saying is

a) Something we already knew

and

b) Something that hasn't been proven either way because the "aces" took extremely amounts of money or in the last years of their careers. Meanwhile, the true aces haven't hit the market yet.

You bring up Piazza. Yet explain Beltran. Can't go both ways on the "loser."

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Ajax

The mets owners it seems always look for an excuse to do nothing, Which is why this franchise will always be a joke for as long as they own it. Coupon wouldn't have gotten Piazza if not goaded into it by the Mike and the Maddog show and why they went after Beltran was uncharacteristicly aggressive and threw most of us off stride with the surprise. But more times than not they like to come up short on offers for free agents, they just offer enough not to be accetable rather than going the extra mile to do what it takes to get their man.

No.1

Give me one FA in the last 3 years, the team should have gone that extra mile for.

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Dokes

MLBTR brings up Ken rosenthal's articleFOX Sports on MSN - MLB - Mets scrambling for top-notch starter
The has the same point but not just for Santana. He basically says that the package we've offered teams isn't as attractive as what other teams have to offer even for guys like Bedard, Haren, and Blanton.

RkFast

Not giving pitchers long terms contracts is a GOOD thing according to MANY MANY people in MLB and was (and still is) essentially POLICY for MOST MLB clubs.

I have no problem with this approach at all.

And not for nothing, considering this club DID GO for the extra year for some guy named Petey, when no other team would, your entire argument/rant/whine is basically shot to schitt.

15 Day DL Alou

You are kidding right? How in the world would anyone be able to prove that he was or was not talking to someone who declined to be identified? No one is going to come after a newspaper reporter for presenting innuendos and rumors about trades.

98% of what gets floated in regard to trade rumor is false and often comes planted from other directions trying to get a real read on the situation.

In regards to Santana, there are at this time no fewer than a couple of dozen different opinions, on who is a front runner to get him and why.

86mets

I realize trhis comes via the good ol "Source" route..

But the point i'm making was regarding PITCHING..and the "possible" organizational PHILOSOPHY of not going more than FIVE YEARS on ANY pitcher..EVEN the BEST... they did it last year with ZITO(which I agreed on) and now it is being said that rule APPLIES to ALL.. so thats what triggered me asking the question.. Mets NEED an ACE DESPERATELY.. and we are not being led to believe that mets won't go WHERE the MARKET is NOW HEADED for TOP ACES via commitment...so now what...

Develop our own...and as Metman stated...Mets gonna have to PONY UP the $$ to sign EXPENSIVE draft picks. so that they can GROOM the NEXT Dwight Gooden...or Use him to GET the NEXT Johan that becomes available via the trade market...but then are they gonna let him walk as a FA b/c they won't go past FIVE years down the road too???

Beningo/Evan just reaffirmed on radio in discussing Johan that OMAR has said he doesn't think ANY PITCHER deserves > 5 years.. so apparently its not just coming form this writer..

86mets

Who.? Missed this..

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86, Joe said that Peterson didn't want to sign anyone for 6 years. I didn't hear anything on Omar.

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