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METSSC · 10-15-2007, 09:21 AM

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DENVER - Mets brass won't finalize Willie Randolph's staff until Texas hitting coach Rudy Jaramillo's contact expires at the end of the month and he can be pursued. But the Mets' 2007 coaches are largely expected to return, with the exception of Rickey Henderson, who was viewed as an interim hire once Rick Down was fired at the All-Star break.

Jaramillo was a finalist for the Mets' managerial job that went to Randolph. That would raise eyebrows considering the organization let Randolph squirm for 48 hours before confirming he'd return for a fourth season as skipper. But those who know Jaramillo believe he's content as a hitting coach and doesn't have managerial ambitions now. Jaramillo is taking his hitting-coach responsibilities with Texas seriously, too. With his contract not set to expire until Oct. 31, Jaramillo just flew to Arizona to work with Rangers minor leaguers.

If Jaramillo, the Rangers' hitting coach for 13 seasons, did join the Mets, Howard Johnson - who was named hitting coach when Down was axed - would figure to return as first base coach. Jaramillo has a long-standing relationship with Mets GM Omar Minaya. When Jaramillo managed in the Single-A Gulf Coast League in 1985 and '86, Minaya was a coach on his staff.

Big Denny · 10-15-2007, 09:24 AM

Too bad his name is Joward Johnsonillo. At any rate, why would Johnson be axed? Sure texas has hit weel but so have the Mets under Johnson in a pitcher friendly park.

Voodoo · 10-15-2007, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Denny

Too bad his name is Joward Johnsonillo. At any rate, why would Johnson be axed? Sure texas has hit weel but so have the Mets under Johnson in a pitcher friendly park.

Supposedly he's the Dr. Rick of hitting. I suppose they may be canning Rickey and putting Hojo back at 1B coach if they pick this guy up.

mets84 · 10-15-2007, 09:32 AM

So in essence Omar is telling Willie "the only way you make it into CitiField is with a ticket," and by early accounts is looking to reunite the cast of "Cocoon" around Wright/Reyes/Beltran.

WORLD SERIES HERE WE COME BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kid A · 10-15-2007, 09:33 AM

Johnson has been pretty solid since taking over. No reason to replace him.

On the other hand, if they viewed Ricky as an interim coach all along maybe they viewed HoJo as the same, this is likely something that HoJo has known since his responsibilities shifted.

He'll be the manager by 2010 anyway.

Voodoo · 10-15-2007, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mets84

So in essence Omar is telling Willie "the only way you make it into CitiField is with a ticket," and by early accounts is looking to reunite the cast of "Cocoon" around Wright/Reyes/Beltran.

WORLD SERIES HERE WE COME BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hear Wilford Brimley is ready to step in and be the staff Ace.

NeilAllen · 10-15-2007, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mets84

So in essence Omar is telling Willie "the only way you make it into CitiField is with a ticket," and by early accounts is looking to reunite the cast of "Cocoon" around Wright/Reyes/Beltran.

WORLD SERIES HERE WE COME BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Catch the Stability!

Ajax · 10-15-2007, 11:06 AM

I knew Ricky was a goner and deservedly so, I feel that he started Reyes' decline. Reyes could learn nothing good from Ricky. A lot of people have short memories about Ricky. He was t-r-o-u-b-l-e wherever he was, not just playing cards. I remember when he was grumbling about his contract with the Yanks, bad scene. A have heard around, that maybe he started planting seeds of unrest in Reyes about his contract, since he was considered as good as Wright with a bat and a better fielder, some people have wondered why he got so much less money than Wright did. As far as the other coaches go, I think Alomar could retire, I didn't like him at third base last year and he's pretty old. I like to see somebody firey like Phil Garner or Cookie Rojas there. And I think Wagner addressed the problem with the pitching coach, that none of the coaches could identify with the relief pitchers, Peterson's main concern is the starters. So how about a relief pitcher as coach in the bull pen. Somebody like Johnny Franco, it doesn't have to be Franco, maybe Orosco or Apodaca, somebody who can relate to relief pitchers, as relief pitching is now more important than it ever was in the past.

Shooter Mcgavin · 10-15-2007, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Denny

Too bad his name is Joward Johnsonillo. At any rate, why would Johnson be axed? Sure texas has hit weel but so have the Mets under Johnson in a pitcher friendly park.

Because he's not bi-lingual. Ya know what I'm saying.

Shooter Mcgavin · 10-15-2007, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Ajax

I knew Ricky was a goner and deservedly so, I feel that he started Reyes' decline. Reyes could learn nothing good from Ricky. A lot of people have short memories about Ricky. He was t-r-o-u-b-l-e wherever he was, not just playing cards. I remember when he was grumbling about his contract with the Yanks, bad scene. A have heard around, that maybe he started planting seeds of unrest in Reyes about his contract, since he was considered as good as Wright with a bat and a better fielder, some people have wondered why he got so much less money than Wright did. As far as the other coaches go, I think Alomar could retire, I didn't like him at third base last year and he's pretty old. I like to see somebody firey like Phil Garner or Cookie Rojas there. And I think Wagner addressed the problem with the pitching coach, that none of the coaches could identify with the relief pitchers, Peterson's main concern is the starters. So how about a relief pitcher as coach in the bull pen. Somebody like Johnny Franco, it doesn't have to be Franco, maybe Orosco or Apodaca, somebody who can relate to relief pitchers, as relief pitching is now more important than it ever was in the past.

Wright was paid more than Reyes because he's a better player and more marketable.

Kid A · 10-15-2007, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ajax

I knew Ricky was a goner and deservedly so, I feel that he started Reyes' decline. Reyes could learn nothing good from Ricky. A lot of people have short memories about Ricky. He was t-r-o-u-b-l-e wherever he was, not just playing cards. I remember when he was grumbling about his contract with the Yanks, bad scene. A have heard around, that maybe he started planting seeds of unrest in Reyes about his contract, since he was considered as good as Wright with a bat and a better fielder, some people have wondered why he got so much less money than Wright did. As far as the other coaches go, I think Alomar could retire, I didn't like him at third base last year and he's pretty old. I like to see somebody firey like Phil Garner or Cookie Rojas there. And I think Wagner addressed the problem with the pitching coach, that none of the coaches could identify with the relief pitchers, Peterson's main concern is the starters. So how about a relief pitcher as coach in the bull pen. Somebody like Johnny Franco, it doesn't have to be Franco, maybe Orosco or Apodaca, somebody who can relate to relief pitchers, as relief pitching is now more important than it ever was in the past.

Heard around? You mean like at the barber shop or posting on a message board?

mets84 · 10-15-2007, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Shooter Mcgavin

Wright was paid more than Reyes because he's a better player and more marketable.

I'm sure if it was explained to Reyes like that, everything would be fine.

LAS VEGAS DAVE · 10-15-2007, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Ajax

And I think Wagner addressed the problem with the pitching coach, that none of the coaches could identify with the relief pitchers, Peterson's main concern is the starters. So how about a relief pitcher as coach in the bull pen. Somebody like Johnny Franco, it doesn't have to be Franco, maybe Orosco or Apodaca, somebody who can relate to relief pitchers, as relief pitching is now more important than it ever was in the past.

Apodaca? From pitching coach of the NL Champions to bullpen coach of the Mets? Why in the world would he want to do that? Franco or Orosco I could see...

15 Day DL Alou · 10-15-2007, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ajax

And I think Wagner addressed the problem with the pitching coach, that none of the coaches could identify with the relief pitchers, Peterson's main concern is the starters. So how about a relief pitcher as coach in the bull pen. Somebody like Johnny Franco, it doesn't have to be Franco, maybe Orosco or Apodaca, somebody who can relate to relief pitchers, as relief pitching is now more important than it ever was in the past.

Amazingly, that was not a problem last year when the bullpen was the reason the Mets pitching staff did not implode in 2006. Suddenly as the days of Mid-August 2007 came creeping in, Billy Wagner and crew started feeling Aaron Heilman's feelings.

Perhaps they all had poor parking?

graves9 · 10-15-2007, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Ajax

And I think Wagner addressed the problem with the pitching coach, that none of the coaches could identify with the relief pitchers, Peterson's main concern is the starters. So how about a relief pitcher as coach in the bull pen. Somebody like Johnny Franco, .

John Franco?! Please tell me you're joking. The Mets just got rid of the other manager Wannabe in Juliblow. I can't believe you wanna bring the Craptain in. The only thing he can help the bullpen guys to do is how to smirk when they blow the game.

10-15-2007, 09:21 AM	#1 (permalink)
METSSC Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 8,647	This should make for one big happy family http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...or_willie.html DENVER - Mets brass won't finalize Willie Randolph's staff until Texas hitting coach Rudy Jaramillo's contact expires at the end of the month and he can be pursued. But the Mets' 2007 coaches are largely expected to return, with the exception of Rickey Henderson, who was viewed as an interim hire once Rick Down was fired at the All-Star break. Jaramillo was a finalist for the Mets' managerial job that went to Randolph. That would raise eyebrows considering the organization let Randolph squirm for 48 hours before confirming he'd return for a fourth season as skipper. But those who know Jaramillo believe he's content as a hitting coach and doesn't have managerial ambitions now. Jaramillo is taking his hitting-coach responsibilities with Texas seriously, too. With his contract not set to expire until Oct. 31, Jaramillo just flew to Arizona to work with Rangers minor leaguers. If Jaramillo, the Rangers' hitting coach for 13 seasons, did join the Mets, Howard Johnson - who was named hitting coach when Down was axed - would figure to return as first base coach. Jaramillo has a long-standing relationship with Mets GM Omar Minaya. When Jaramillo managed in the Single-A Gulf Coast League in 1985 and '86, Minaya was a coach on his staff. __________________ GET THE PIECE OF CRAP McGimpy OFF MY TEAM NOW!!!!! The McGimpy does most things upside down: eats, sleeps (an average of 23 hours per day), mates, and gives birth. Because of the McGimpy's upside down life, many of the McGimpy's internal organs (liver, stomach, spleen, pancreas) are in different positions from other mammals. McGimpy sometimes lets out a cry or hissing sound. During the rare times the McGimpy goes down to the ground (such as to change trees for food), it moves very slowly.

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10-15-2007, 09:33 AM	#5 (permalink)
Kid A Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,335	Johnson has been pretty solid since taking over. No reason to replace him. On the other hand, if they viewed Ricky as an interim coach all along maybe they viewed HoJo as the same, this is likely something that HoJo has known since his responsibilities shifted. He'll be the manager by 2010 anyway.

10-15-2007, 11:06 AM	#8 (permalink)
Ajax Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,066	I knew Ricky was a goner and deservedly so, I feel that he started Reyes' decline. Reyes could learn nothing good from Ricky. A lot of people have short memories about Ricky. He was t-r-o-u-b-l-e wherever he was, not just playing cards. I remember when he was grumbling about his contract with the Yanks, bad scene. A have heard around, that maybe he started planting seeds of unrest in Reyes about his contract, since he was considered as good as Wright with a bat and a better fielder, some people have wondered why he got so much less money than Wright did. As far as the other coaches go, I think Alomar could retire, I didn't like him at third base last year and he's pretty old. I like to see somebody firey like Phil Garner or Cookie Rojas there. And I think Wagner addressed the problem with the pitching coach, that none of the coaches could identify with the relief pitchers, Peterson's main concern is the starters. So how about a relief pitcher as coach in the bull pen. Somebody like Johnny Franco, it doesn't have to be Franco, maybe Orosco or Apodaca, somebody who can relate to relief pitchers, as relief pitching is now more important than it ever was in the past.

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