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Old 08-07-2007, 01:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Yanks 1/2 game out of WC

and get HFA in WS if they make it...

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Old 08-07-2007, 01:09 AM   #2 (permalink)
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mostly due to their easy schedule lately

not worried, dont care either
 
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I care. "It is not enought that we succeed....my friends (or enemies) must also fail"!
 
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The schedule is a killer for them the next three weeks, but the Tigers need Sheffield back yesterday. Verlander and Bonderman are having their worst stretch of the season right now too, and they're both too good for it to last (barring some kind of injury)...

The Indians are struggling as well, and it's hard to trust a team with Joe Borowski closing. They should have been going after Gagne with a vengeance, considering that the Red Sox have the best pen in the majors and gave up relatively little...
 
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I have to admit that a while back I was ready to bury the Yanks for good, but a little voice in my head said "don't do it yet".
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I give it about 3 weeks till they're a 1/2 game behind the BoSox
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and get HFA in WS if they make it...

God help us.
I got an email from an old fraternity brother who said that the Yankees had played better than the "JV" Mets since the ASB, and that the Yankees would be in first place in the NL East. Here is my response:

Number of teams with winning records the Pinstriped-Wearing Mercenaries...uhhh, I mean the Yankees have played since the All-Star Break--- 0. That is "zero", as in "None".Too bad they'll not face the likes of Tampa Bay in the post-season, should they not be sent packing on 1 October.

"JV", indeed...

Let's see how big and bad your $200 million dollar machine is from 10 August thru 30 August, when they play some teams that may actually contend. Let's see how hot Yankee bats are against actual real-live major-league pitchers...

And even should your Yankees not choke (do you really think Bobby Abreu will hold up under the glare of a pennant race?) and actually make the post-season, they'll likely be doing playoff battle with teams like Boston (see 2004), Detroit (see 2006), or the LA Angels (see 2002 or 2005). Given recent history, it is not likely any of these teams will feel any real intimidation playing the Yankees. Also, considering the numbers that Yankee starting pitchers have put up this year(even the "stud" Chien-Ming Wang has an BAA of .263 --hardly "ace" stuff), and given the fact that no Yankee SP seems capable of getting past the sixth inning without allowing 10-12 baserunners, the idea of defeating laughably inferior opponents by scores of 11-5 (that's essentially what this last "winning streak" has been) seems patently unrealistic.

In other words, brace yourself for yet more crowd shots of banners reading "A Third The Payroll, Ten Times The Heart" in the final innings of the ALDS as the Yankees face round-one elimination, yet again.

I will give you that the Yankees have won more games since the ASB than the Mets. I do respect facts. Yet I do ask the facts be examined. The Mets have gone 15-9 in the same period, yet have faced actual contenders (some on a west-coast road trip) during this 24 game stretch. Against San Diego, Los Angeles, Milwaukee, and the Chicago Cubs (any of the above is just as capable of pulling an upset WS win this year as were the St Louis Cardinals last year), the NY Mets are a combined 8 wins and 5 losses.

Could your Yankees post similar numbers in head-to-head meetings with Detroit, Boston, Cleveland, and the LA Angels? Let's see! That's why the games are played!
Perhaps they may just live up to their bloated payroll numbers and make a solid account of themselves.

You may say the Mets could just as soon spit the bit down the stretch, and they just may, for all anyone really knows. But the truth of the matter is this: when it is all said and done, the Mets will have had still another good season, winning ninety- plus games. Anything beyond that is a cherished bonus.

As far as the Yankees go, their season-- as it has for many years now-- has just two possible outcomes: they win it all, or they are merely on the short end of some other team's miracle...

So: will they- 3XL payroll and all- win it all, or will they yet again play the role of neighborhood-bully-who's-been-cut-down-to-size? Neither option sounds too honorable, if you asked me...
 
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People keep talking about this 'tough 3 weeks' for them. Here's the problem that nobody is considering (or considered, as it was too early to do so)

If you look at the Cle series, there is NO Sabathai. Baltimore? No Beddard.

Toronto? No Closer and no Aj Burnett. Anaheim, how do we know will have Lackey/Escobar? If that series doesn't have those 2 pitchers, it'll be another simulation of the Bronx series, with 2 stiffs handing up runs a plenty. And we'll never hear the ****ing end of it. And you know Josh Towers, in place of Burnett, will get ass raped today. Problem is that there are too many bad right handers in this league and the Yankees depend on that. See the last month for evidence.

And if a team has no bullpen, how do you expect them to beat the Yankees? That's how they score so many of their gd runs and steal wins, ala yesterday. Blue Jays pissed away 2 games vs them in Bronx. Twins blew at least one. Drays about 4. It never ****ing ends.

There are no teams with bullpens that can put the hammer down, except a team like the Angels. And the Indians' closer pissed away a 3 run lead vs them and will **** his pants.

Face it, the Yankees are making the playoffs due to that offense. Like it or not. I told ya they'd come back and that the Indians would melt. I watch these teams. I'm telling you, NO wc team is built for the long haul. So you give it to the team with more experience and power; The Yankees. Even though they are over-rated, nobody is technically better than them. As pathetic as that sounds.

That's why you don't crow until it is over.
 
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mostly due to their easy schedule lately

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Agreed and Agreed
 
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Face it, the Yankees are making the playoffs due to that offense. Like it or not. I told ya they'd come back and that the Indians would melt. I watch these teams. I'm telling you, NO wc team is built for the long haul. So you give it to the team with more experience and power; The Yankees. Even though they are over-rated, nobody is technically better than them. As pathetic as that sounds.

That's why you don't crow until it is over.
So doesn't this mean that in all probability that the Skanks are ousted in the first round of the playoffs....again? I can live with that if I have to. The team with the highest payroll (by far) gets knocked out of the postseason in the first round 3 or 4 years in a row.

This almost makes it more interesting because I can root for the Mets and against the Yankees in the postseason.
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All I ask out of life is NOT to have the Yankees beat the Mets ever again in any series taking place past October 1st.
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So doesn't this mean that in all probability that the Skanks are ousted in the first round of the playoffs....again? I can live with that if I have to. The team with the highest payroll (by far) gets knocked out of the postseason in the first round 3 or 4 years in a row.

This almost makes it more interesting because I can root for the Mets and against the Yankees in the postseason.
the playoffs are a crapshoot and we know this from experience. There are zero guarantees that the Yankees are going out in the first round.
 
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the playoffs are a crapshoot and we know this from experience. There are zero guarantees that the Yankees are going out in the first round.
nope - but they haven't exactly proven themselves the last few times around

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the playoffs are a crapshoot and we know this from experience. There are zero guarantees that the Yankees are going out in the first round.
I don't know...but their "unacceptable" early exits have pretty much been like clockwork for six years now.
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I don't know...but their "unacceptable" early exits have pretty much been like clockwork for six years now.
Eh, I think the pitching is a little bit different this season. More 'money pitchers' especially with Pettitte and Clemens back in the fold. I know they are older, but they still made the World Series twice with them after 2000.

They don't have Randy Johnson, Javier Vazquez or Kevin Brown in to give up a dozen runs anymore.
 
 
 


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