Schoeneweiss: Are the minors an option?

ultramet · 06-27-2007, 09:46 AM

I realize that we have had several threads but now it is obviously apparent that this signing has been nothing but a bust. As we continue to see this guy fail at the big league level, are the minors an option with this guy??? I remember when Trachsel started with the Mets he got bombed and was sent to the minors. To his credit, he accepted the assignement, got his $hit together, and then returned to be somewhat effective. Why can't we do this with Schoeneweiss?? I guess to be sent to the minors he would have to be DFA'd, but who cares?? Since he probably is intent on keeping Schoeneweiss on this team, a minor rehab assignment is in order. If he doesn't want to accept then bye-bye.

mets84 · 06-27-2007, 10:08 AM

he seems as frustrated with his pitching as anyone... he might be open to it. roster-wise, how did it work with trash back in 01? I don't think he was DFA'd, was he?

KingOlerud · 06-27-2007, 10:15 AM

Schoeneweis will probably get moved in a trade with the Mets eating a large portion of the salary. There's always someone willing to take on a clamation project.

slimshady · 06-27-2007, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mets84

he seems as frustrated with his pitching as anyone... he might be open to it. roster-wise, how did it work with trash back in 01? I don't think he was DFA'd, was he?

Trash accepted the demotion...

Rey-YES · 06-27-2007, 10:22 AM

As far as I know, he can go to NO if he gives permission. If he's DFA'd, I don't see anyone claiming him and taking on his contract. But if he says no to NO, he becomes a FA and the Mets owe him the full $$$.

Kid A · 06-27-2007, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingOlerud

Schoeneweis will probably get moved in a trade with the Mets eating a large portion of the salary. There's always someone willing to take on a clamation project.

In fairness, its usually the Mets that are willing to take on the reclamation projects. He's going no where, JMO.

Sports Doctor · 06-27-2007, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kid A

In fairness, its usually the Mets that are willing to take on the reclamation projects. He's going no where, JMO.

Seriously. If the guy really has a torn tendon in his leg (whether is really effects his pitching or not) can't we just throw him on the DL? Won't insurance cover his salary if hes gone for the year because of this?

CharlieH · 06-27-2007, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingOlerud

Schoeneweis will probably get moved in a trade with the Mets eating a large portion of the salary. There's always someone willing to take on a clamation project.

Especially seeing as he's a lefty...

Bay Ridge Dave · 06-27-2007, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sports Doctor

Seriously. If the guy really has a torn tendon in his leg (whether is really effects his pitching or not) can't we just throw him on the DL? Won't insurance cover his salary if hes gone for the year because of this?

You may want to call the Mets and explain to them what one of those is, what it's for, and how it works....

KingOlerud · 06-27-2007, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kid A

In fairness, its usually the Mets that are willing to take on the reclamation projects. He's going no where, JMO.

Look how many different teams Bruce Chen surfaced with. There's always someone willing to take on these projects.

In fact, I just looked it up. Did anyone know that Bruce Chen pitched 10 innings this year? 2007? For Texas. To the tune of a 7.20 ERA. After he pitched 100 innings last year. To the tune of a 7.00 ERA. Teams are positively desperate for pitching of any kind. It's not just the Mets by any means.

ultramet · 06-27-2007, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kid A

In fairness, its usually the Mets that are willing to take on the reclamation projects. He's going no where, JMO.

Agreed. If his pitching woes are mechanical then I think we are stuck with him as a reclamation project. If his woes are psychological and he just can't "cut it" pitching in NYC then he needs to get the hell out of dodge and go pitch for the Royals (And we eat his salary). If his tendon is torn then he has no business being on the big league roster. As stated above, hopefully we can get some insurance money ( ala Mo Vaughn) In any case, I think he sealed his fate yesterday when he let Ryan, who only had 6 HRs in 4 minor league seasons, take him deep. I cannot see him being on the Mets MLB active roster by the ASB.

Mr. Met · 06-27-2007, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultramet

Agreed. If his pitching woes are mechanical then I think we are stuck with him as a reclamation project. If his woes are psychological and he just can't "cut it" pitching in NYC then he needs to get the hell out of dodge and go pitch for the Royals (And we eat his salary). If his tendon is torn then he has no business being on the big league roster. As stated above, hopefully we can get some insurance money ( ala Mo Vaughn) In any case, I think he sealed his fate yesterday when he let Ryan, who only had 6 HRs in 4 minor league seasons, take him deep. I cannot see him being on the Mets MLB active roster by the ASB.

As I have said before, I think we are either stuck with him, or he will be headed to the minors. I just cant see any team that will be willing to take him, (and his picture perfect fastball right over the middle of the plate) at the moment.

We need to face facts. The Mets are stuck with him. If he stays with the team, how about someone telling Willie not to CONSTANTLY put him in with the game on the line. What's it going to take for Willie to figure out he is not the "go-to" guy. I know many of you feel Willie is the next Einstein, but his handling of the Schoenshiit situation, has been beyond any comprehension. If Willie would only use him as a Mop-Up guy and NOT put him in, in big situations, perhaps he can improve, and be of some use to us in the future.

Of course, we can hope that Omar can pull a rabbit out of his hat, and find a sucker for Schoenshiit, but I cant imagine any team would be THAT foolish to trade for him right now.

Deleted User · 06-27-2007, 11:23 AM

Bottom line, if they're not going to send him down/release/trade him, he needs to be the absolute LAST option in the pen. That means cutting Sele and bringing up someone else up. This is interesting. From Metsblog:

Schoeneweis has not allowed a run to score in 27 of his 34 appearances this season.

and

In the seven games games he has allowed a run, he has a 50.62 ERA.

mets84 · 06-27-2007, 11:24 AM

has there been any burgos update recently? are they still resting him to see how his elbow does?

Green Must Go · 06-27-2007, 11:25 AM

I think there HAS to be something physically wrong with him for his performance to be this pathetic.

06-27-2007, 09:46 AM	#1 (permalink)
ultramet Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,381	Schoeneweiss: Are the minors an option? I realize that we have had several threads but now it is obviously apparent that this signing has been nothing but a bust. As we continue to see this guy fail at the big league level, are the minors an option with this guy??? I remember when Trachsel started with the Mets he got bombed and was sent to the minors. To his credit, he accepted the assignement, got his $hit together, and then returned to be somewhat effective. Why can't we do this with Schoeneweiss?? I guess to be sent to the minors he would have to be DFA'd, but who cares?? Since he probably is intent on keeping Schoeneweiss on this team, a minor rehab assignment is in order. If he doesn't want to accept then bye-bye.

06-27-2007, 10:22 AM	#5 (permalink)
Rey-YES Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,053	As far as I know, he can go to NO if he gives permission. If he's DFA'd, I don't see anyone claiming him and taking on his contract. But if he says no to NO, he becomes a FA and the Mets owe him the full $$$. __________________ TPFKABM

06-27-2007, 11:25 AM	#15 (permalink)
Green Must Go Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Obama has his eye on your wallet Posts: 11,993	I think there HAS to be something physically wrong with him for his performance to be this pathetic. __________________ Obama's least favorite scripture: Even while we were with you, you gave you this rule: "Whoever does not work should not eat." - 2 Thes 3:10

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

Visit Our Sponsors
<script language="JavaScript" src="http://c1.zedo.com/jsc/c1/ff2.js"></script><noscript> <a href="http://xads.zedo.com/ads2/r?n=558;c=461/9;s=334;x=3584;u=j;z=[timestamp]" target="_blank"><img border="0" width="728" height="90" src="http://xads.zedo.com/ads2/x?n=558;c=461/9;s=334;x=3584;u=j;z=[timestamp]" alt="Click here"></a> </noscript>

06-27-2007, 10:08 AM	#2 (permalink)
mets84 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Down by 11 in the 9th inning Posts: 9,873	he seems as frustrated with his pitching as anyone... he might be open to it. roster-wise, how did it work with trash back in 01? I don't think he was DFA'd, was he?

06-27-2007, 10:15 AM	#3 (permalink)
KingOlerud Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Met Hero, Luis Castillo Posts: 9,101	Schoeneweis will probably get moved in a trade with the Mets eating a large portion of the salary. There's always someone willing to take on a clamation project.

06-27-2007, 11:23 AM	#13 (permalink)
Deleted User Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,464	Bottom line, if they're not going to send him down/release/trade him, he needs to be the absolute LAST option in the pen. That means cutting Sele and bringing up someone else up. This is interesting. From Metsblog: Schoeneweis has not allowed a run to score in 27 of his 34 appearances this season. and In the seven games games he has allowed a run, he has a 50.62 ERA.

06-27-2007, 11:24 AM	#14 (permalink)
mets84 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Down by 11 in the 9th inning Posts: 9,873	has there been any burgos update recently? are they still resting him to see how his elbow does?

Want fewer adverts? -Join NY Sportsday's Forums