Hopefully Lo Duca will bat 2nd now.

krunchyfrogg · 06-07-2007, 10:14 AM

Twice in the past two games, Reyes has been intentionally walked to get to Chavez. With him out, hopefully Willie will stick Lo Duca back there.

Reyes does NOT get an IBB so that the Phils can face Lo Duca.

Deleted User · 06-07-2007, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by krunchyfrogg

Twice in the past two games, Reyes has been intentionally walked to get to Chavez. With him out, hopefully Willie will stick Lo Duca back there.

Reyes does NOT get an IBB so that the Phils can face Lo Duca.

Yes he does.

15 Day DL Alou · 06-07-2007, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ilpadrino78

Yes he does.

Extremely unlikely the do that with one out.

Deleted User · 06-07-2007, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 15 Day DL Alou

Extremely unlikely the do that with one out.

So, they'd rather face a guy who is talked about as an MVP candidate with runners in scoring position than a guy who could ground into an inning-ending DP??

MrHat · 06-07-2007, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ilpadrino78

So, they'd rather face a guy who is talked about as an MVP candidate with runners in scoring position than a guy who could ground into an inning-ending DP??

Lo Duca leads the majors in BA with runner on 3rd and less than 2 outs.

Damned if they do, damned if they dont situation. Even if they did walk Reyes there, LoDuca comes through in the spot IMO....and more to the point, Krunchy is right. Its overdue to move Paulie back to the #2 spot.

Deleted User · 06-07-2007, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by MrHat

Lo Duca leads the majors in BA with runner on 3rd and less than 2 outs.

Damned if they do, damned if they dont situation. Even if they did walk Reyes there, LoDuca comes through in the spot IMO....and more to the point, Krunchy is right. Its overdue to move Paulie back to the #2 spot.

Oh, I think he'd come through as well...I still think they'd walk Reyes.

Don't be so quick to think that Lo Duca moves back up either. I hope he does, but it might be Easley (if his injury is nothing major) that moves up there.

freakzilla11 · 06-07-2007, 11:06 AM

Chavez has been exposed as well sadly.

NeilAllen · 06-07-2007, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ilpadrino78

Yes he does.

No he doesn't.

Deleted User · 06-07-2007, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by NeilAllen

No he doesn't.

YES HE DOES!!!!!

15 Day DL Alou · 06-07-2007, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ilpadrino78

So, they'd rather face a guy who is talked about as an MVP candidate with runners in scoring position than a guy who could ground into an inning-ending DP??

What Hat said, plus Charlie Manuel is a total fu(king imbecile. I am just about as sure as can be, that in the post game conference after pitching to Reyes had LoDuca been behind him, he would have pulled out LoDuca's ability in those situations.

Frankly, you might still walk Reyes, but you are going to think much more about pitching to him then you do with Endy there. And frankly I do not have any faith in Endy in the big spot, other than with the glove or with the bunt.

Sports Doctor · 06-07-2007, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by krunchyfrogg

Twice in the past two games, Reyes has been intentionally walked to get to Chavez. With him out, hopefully Willie will stick Lo Duca back there.

Reyes does NOT get an IBB so that the Phils can face Lo Duca.

Yeah Chavez has been killing us at the plate lately

Piney Woods · 06-07-2007, 11:36 AM

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Reyes does NOT get an IBB so that the Phils can face Lo Duca.

So in a situation where the Phils want a GiDP they're going to opt to face the fast lefty swinger with no force rather than a slow righty with a force???
Whattareya nuts? ... Of course they're going to IW Jose there - and would do so almost no matter who was up next.

The main question is who you want up next regardless of whether they'd walk him or not, to which the answer is: the best available hitter. At the moment that is LoDuca over Endy. They'd still walk him, but we'd have a better shot of scoring whether they did or not.

btw, The answer could also be Wright (now THAT would have Manual shaking in his boots) who I liked hitting 2nd all along (for the same reasons as above) although not neccesarily now with the regular corner OFers out creating all the holes in the middle of the lineup.

15 Day DL Alou · 06-07-2007, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Piney Woods

So in a situation where the Phils want a GiDP they're going to opt to face the fast lefty swinger with no force rather than a slow righty with a force???
Whattareya nuts? ... Of course they're going to IW Jose there - and would do so almost no matter who was up next.

The main question is who you want up next regardless of whether they'd walk him or not, to which the answer is: the best available hitter. At the moment that is LoDuca over Endy. They'd still walk him, but we'd have a better shot of scoring whether they did or not.

btw, The answer could also be Wright (now THAT would have Manual shaking in his boots) who I liked hitting 2nd all along (for the same reasons as above) although not neccesarily now with the regular corner OFers out creating all the holes in the middle of the lineup.

no, but Charlie Manuel is.

krunchyfrogg · 06-07-2007, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ilpadrino78

Yes he does.

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Originally Posted by NeilAllen

No he doesn't.

I'm still perplexed as to why Lo Duca was moved in the first place. The guy was doing a wonderful job there. It worked so well last season, but it was still tinkered with.

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Originally Posted by Piney Woods

btw, The answer could also be Wright (now THAT would have Manual shaking in his boots) who I liked hitting 2nd all along (for the same reasons as above) although not neccesarily now with the regular corner OFers out creating all the holes in the middle of the lineup.

Why not just move Beltran to 2nd if we're going down that road?

Big Denny · 06-07-2007, 12:48 PM

They probably walk Reyes either way but there is still a major advantage of having Lo Duca up there, despite the potential double play ball. Lo Duca is simply the better, more experienced hitter. He's less inclined to chase bad pitches and won't help the pitcher out in that respect. Yes the inning ending double play chance exists but you still have to deal with a much better hitter.

Look at it this way. Until we get our guys back we will have five regulars and three guys that will most certainly suck. So you can have one of two lineups. It's :

Reyes
Lo Duca
Beltran
Delgado
Wright
Suck
Suck
Suck

or

Reyes
Suck
Beltran
Delgado
Wright
Lo Duca
Suck
Suck

I like the first one better because you have a better chacne at runs early and Willie has more options with Reyes on base on Lo Duca behind him.

06-07-2007, 10:14 AM	#1 (permalink)
krunchyfrogg Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Shermer, Illinois Posts: 1,295	Hopefully Lo Duca will bat 2nd now. Twice in the past two games, Reyes has been intentionally walked to get to Chavez. With him out, hopefully Willie will stick Lo Duca back there. Reyes does NOT get an IBB so that the Phils can face Lo Duca. __________________ "A life is not important, except in the impact it has on other lives." -- Jackie Robinson 2008 Mofo 20 Team League Fantasy Baseball Champion!

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06-07-2007, 12:48 PM	#15 (permalink)
Big Denny Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,296	They probably walk Reyes either way but there is still a major advantage of having Lo Duca up there, despite the potential double play ball. Lo Duca is simply the better, more experienced hitter. He's less inclined to chase bad pitches and won't help the pitcher out in that respect. Yes the inning ending double play chance exists but you still have to deal with a much better hitter. Look at it this way. Until we get our guys back we will have five regulars and three guys that will most certainly suck. So you can have one of two lineups. It's : Reyes Lo Duca Beltran Delgado Wright Suck Suck Suck or Reyes Suck Beltran Delgado Wright Lo Duca Suck Suck I like the first one better because you have a better chacne at runs early and Willie has more options with Reyes on base on Lo Duca behind him.

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