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Old 08-04-2008, 02:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The three main components of Obama’s plan are:

— Get 1 million 150 mile-per-gallon plug-in hybrids on U.S. roads within six years.

— Require that 10 percent of U.S. energy comes from renewable sources by the end of his first term – more than double the current level.

Reduce U.S. demand for electricity 15 percent by 2020.
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The three main components of Obama’s plan are:

— Get 1 million 150 mile-per-gallon plug-in hybrids on U.S. roads within six years.

— Require that 10 percent of U.S. energy comes from renewable sources by the end of his first term – more than double the current level.

Reduce U.S. demand for electricity 15 percent by 2020.
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I read one and two, and thought, I can buy into that. I don't know how he's going to get there, but I have no problem with either. I especially liked the plug in hybrids, as opposed to any ethanol solutions.

Then I read three.

I mean. What? How... Ugh. I have no words.
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What about Hydrogen fulel cells for cars?


The plan should be, within six years......2.5 million Hydrogen fuel powered cars and increase nuclear power by 50%
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The oil companies like the hydrogen fuel cell option because they get to sell something at gas stations besides gasoline. The plug-in hybrid takes them out of the mix entirely.
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The oil companies like the hydrogen fuel cell option because they get to sell something at gas stations besides gasoline. The plug-in hybrid takes them out of the mix entirely.
that's why Hydrogen is the answer. There will NEVER be a solution to gas powered cars iunless the oil companies are give an oppotunity to protect their profit.
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Then I read three.

I mean. What? How... Ugh. I have no words.
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I don't think it is a totally realistic (or even unrealistic, I think we could reach somewhere in the middle) option, but the dude who used to own PayPal now owns the biggest solar energy company in California. He is trying to develop an affordable ($20,000-$30,000) all electric car with 400-mile range that can charge up to 80% in less than two hours by 2012 (I think - I read this article a while ago). He would also look into including a solar panel for the house to account for the additional electrical energy that would be needed.

It's intriguing, to say the least. But eventually we're going to have to get away from hybrids all together, plug-in or not.
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I read one and two, and thought, I can buy into that. I don't know how he's going to get there, but I have no problem with either. I especially liked the plug in hybrids, as opposed to any ethanol solutions.

Then I read three.

I mean. What? How... Ugh. I have no words.
Especially vexing is how you intend to reduce electricity demand by putting everyone in electric cars.

And this is the problem with the liberal mindset. They do not see beyond the nose on their face. Get them meddling in fields like science which require distinct logic and rule sets (and not just making stuff up as you go, as in "art" and "philosophy") and all hell breaks loose.

Nevermind that it's quite clear how Obama intends to reduce electricity use. He wants us all in caves, like the rest of the libs and their burnt caramel brethren across the sea do.

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Especially vexing is how you intend to reduce electricity demand by putting everyone in electric cars.
It's not as much especially vexing as it is mildly Fonzy. I want to see their numbers on plugging those suckers in, ONE MILLION of them, and how much electricity they use, and then seeing where the cuts are coming from. Will anyone in the media have the balls to ask them how they plan to do that, or are we just going to Bah along.
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What did you google to get that picture to come up. I have to know.
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I read one and two, and thought, I can buy into that. I don't know how he's going to get there, but I have no problem with either. I especially liked the plug in hybrids, as opposed to any ethanol solutions.

Then I read three.

I mean. What? How... Ugh. I have no words.
Remember... we can't just set our thermostats at 72 and expect the world to accept that. We'll be freezing in our caves so other people can waste energy instead of us.
 
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What did you google to get that picture to come up. I have to know.
"2008 Mets relief pitching"
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The three main components of Obama’s plan are:

— Get 1 million 150 mile-per-gallon plug-in hybrids on U.S. roads within six years.

— Require that 10 percent of U.S. energy comes from renewable sources by the end of his first term – more than double the current level.

Reduce U.S. demand for electricity 15 percent by 2020.
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That is why I am voting for FrankStylV7 in 2008.
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The three main components of Obama’s plan are:

— Get 1 million 150 mile-per-gallon plug-in hybrids on U.S. roads within six years.

— Require that 10 percent of U.S. energy comes from renewable sources by the end of his first term – more than double the current level.

Reduce U.S. demand for electricity 15 percent by 2020.
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Guess you must have missed his other energy plan from last week inflate your tires and get regular tune ups and we won't have to drill (video link):

Breitbart.tv » Obama’s Answer to Drilling Debate: Inflate Your Tires

Nah, there can't possibly be a legitimate reason to vote against this guy, right KoQ?
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Especially vexing is how you intend to reduce electricity demand by putting everyone in electric cars.

And this is the problem with the liberal mindset. They do not see beyond the nose on their face.

My favorite example of this was Obama's other ingenious plan last week to confiscate all the oil profits and have them send each consumer a $1000 check. Like um... leaving aside for a minute that the government already confiscates 50% of their profits by frggin' law (hellooo McFly....) who the f*ck does he think are going to end up paying for that tax?
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