Get ready for massive recounts

[Paulie Cee]

Originally Posted by TheeSublimeOne

Why not? Millions of soldiers died for our (plural "our", I'm not insinuating that I am homeless) freedoms, one of which is the right to vote.

Wake up. There is an overabundance of shelters for the so-called "homeless" to go. The only people who are living on the street choose to be there and are mentally defective, or as Obama calls them, "the base."

[TheeSublimeOne]

Originally Posted by Green Must Go

Because it leads directly to voter fraud. No one can track these people and their votes.

Don't you need to be registered with the DMV in order to be able to vote?

[gregjefferies09]

Originally Posted by TheeSublimeOne

Don't you need to be registered with the DMV in order to be able to vote?

Not in ohio.

They can bus homeless people from place to place, and register them at multiple places. Last time around a wealthy woman got a bus and gave homeless people cigs and booze while shipping them from place to place to vote kerry.

[TheeSublimeOne]

Originally Posted by Paulie Cee

Wake up. There is an overabundance of shelters for the so-called "homeless" to go. The only people who are living on the street choose to be there and are mentally defective, or as Obama calls them, "the base."

I don't think anybody "chooses" to be homeless.

No matter what state the economy is in, there will always be homeless people. Some are physically able to work, but do not because they are lazy. I doubt they WANT to be homeless, but they just do not have the drive to go out and do something about it.

For the ones that have mental or physical handicaps, we shouldn't shun these people away from society. They need help, and a lot of them clearly aren't getting the proper help, attention, and proper medical care they need. This is not the fault of Republicans or Democrats, it's a fault of the whole system. Maybe we should spend less money overseas and take care of our own first.

[Green Must Go]

Originally Posted by TheeSublimeOne

Don't you need to be registered with the DMV in order to be able to vote?

Which leads to this:

Motor Voter + ACORN = Vote Fraud » The Foundry

Indianapolis/Marion County seems to have more people registered to vote in 2007 then its actual adult citizen population. Even though they only had 644,197 voting age-eligible individuals, there were 677,401 individuals registered to vote, or 105% of the Census population.

It should come as no surprise to anyone that the registration list in Indianapolis/Marion County still has large numbers of ineligible voters – people who have died or moved away, are registered more than once, are not citizens or perhaps don’t even exist given ACORN’s activities there. After all, when the U.S. Supreme Court upheld Indiana’s voter ID law this year, it cited the lower court’s finding that Indiana’s voter rolls were inflated by as much as 41.4% in 2004. One of the main reasons for the inflated voter rolls was the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 or Motor Voter, which was the first legislation signed into law by newly sworn-in President Bill Clinton. As the Supreme Court recognized, Motor Voter has provisions “restricting States’ ability to remove names from the lists of registered voters.” In fact, its restrictions and notice provisions are so strict that many states simply stopped doing anything to clean up their voter rolls after Motor Voter became law.

Section 8 of Motor Voter does contain a provision requiring states to conduct a general program of “list maintenance” that identifies and removes the names of ineligible voters. However, the U.S. Department of Justice never filed a single lawsuit against any state to enforce this provision until 2005, when it finally filed a lawsuit against Missouri, some of whose counties had voter lists as high as 153% of their actual population. In 2006, Justice filed a similar lawsuit against Indiana and the state entered into a Consent Decree in which it agreed to finally start cleaning up it voter registration rolls.

[TheeSublimeOne]

Originally Posted by gregjefferies09

Not in ohio.

They can bus homeless people from place to place, and register them at multiple places. Last time around a wealthy woman got a bus and gave homeless people cigs and booze while shipping them from place to place to vote kerry.

So then there needs to be more provisions so that these things can't happen.

[gregjefferies09]

Originally Posted by TheeSublimeOne

So then there needs to be more provisions so that these things can't happen.

The scary part is, if Ohio is decided by less than the amount of registrations that were being questioned, they won't look into them, and they will stay on the books in future elections.

[kingdiggler]

You don't pay taxes you shouldn't get to vote.

[lgm6986]

Originally Posted by TheeSublimeOne

No matter what state the economy is in, there will always be homeless people. Some are physically able to work, but do not because they are lazy. I doubt they WANT to be homeless, but they just do not have the drive to go out and do something about it.

So they lack the iota of "drive" it takes to keep themselves, at bare minimum, sheltered, despite being otherwise perfectly capable of doing so. But somehow on election day they are going to be motivated enough, all on their own without any illegal enticement, to go vote?

For the ones that have mental or physical handicaps, we shouldn't shun these people away from society. They need help, and a lot of them clearly aren't getting the proper help, attention, and proper medical care they need. This is not the fault of Republicans or Democrats, it's a fault of the whole system. Maybe we should spend less money overseas and take care of our own first.

If they are emotionally and/or mentally handicapped enough that it invalidates their ability to care for themselves, why in God's name should they have a voice in selecting everyone's public servants?

Any way you want to slice it, homeless people have absolutely zero business voting.

[lgm6986]

According to the National Coalition for the Homeless web site, it is not illegal for homeless people to vote. If this is accurate, sickening though it may be, JS is right. The guy actually would be legislating from the bench if he denied them this "right."

[TheeSublimeOne]

Originally Posted by lgm6986

According to the National Coalition for the Homeless web site, it is not illegal for homeless people to vote. If this is accurate, sickening though it may be, JS is right. The guy actually would be legislating from the bench if he denied them this "right."

Exactly, voting is a right, and perfectly legal for the homeless to get in their one vote. Voting multiple times or forcing/incenting people to vote for specific candidates is flat out wrong, no matter who is doing it.

[TheeSublimeOne]

Originally Posted by lgm6986

Any way you want to slice it, homeless people have absolutely zero business voting.

That's an opinion, but the law states otherwise.

[Fonzy13]

Originally Posted by lgm6986

According to the National Coalition for the Homeless web site, it is not illegal for homeless people to vote. If this is accurate, sickening though it may be, JS is right. The guy actually would be legislating from the bench if he denied them this "right."

Incorrect. I will depart from my normal group of miscreant fellow Conservatives on this one. I do believe that homeless people should have the right to vote. I have zero problem with it, provided they are registered from a shelter. There is no way on God's green earth they should be eligible to vote for a park bench, with zero oversight.

[Mule]

Whoa there, Mojambo, if other rights are subject to reasonable restrictions, why not voting?

I see nothing wrong with a potential voter having to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they're a resident of the jurisdiction they're voting in.

[Fonzy13]

Originally Posted by Mule

Whoa there, Mojambo, if other rights are subject to reasonable restrictions, why not voting?

I see nothing wrong with a potential voter having to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they're a resident of the jurisdiction they're voting in.

Exactly. Register out of a shelter, a food pantry, the YWCA. Cool. A bench? Good lord that's scary.